1841 Census

[EDWARDO]

Hiya.Could SKS Look up in the 1841 Census.for a Mr William Freeman.Wife Elizabeth Allen. I have Two Children James born about 1816.And William Born About 1821.the aria in Huntingdone is Bluntisham. Thanks. Ted

[bedfordshire boy]

Yo!

HO107/448/1 folio 11

Bluntisham
William Freeman 45 Ag lab
William Freeman 20
Elizabeth Freeman 15
James Freeman 25 Miller (pretty well obscured)
All born in Hunts

Ages 20 and 15 are both a bit iffy. Ancestry is down at the moment. I'll have a closer look when it comes back up

Whilst I can't see the images on Ancestry at the moment I can see that someone put in a correction for William in Sept 2008 - ME! Which set me looking. In your second post on Rootschat in Sept 2008, when asking for 1851 details, you gave us the 1841 information. Why are you asking for it again? Notwithstanding that you told us Elizabeth was 75 and I too thought it was, I'm not so sure now. It think it's 15 which would make Elizabeth a daughter rather than a possible mother

You were also given 1851 details where William appears to have been born in Somersham, and son James 34 a miller (the same as in 1841) was also born in Somersham. Why do you think that he married Elizabeth Allen in Huntingdon when that William  was described as of Godmanchester, rather than Alice Lantaffe at St Ives where the William was of Somersham? Have you looked for the baptisms of the children in Somersham as I suggested?

David

[EDWARDO]

David.Thanks for your reply.Lots Of Why's There.Well the fact is I'm floundering.I'm Doing My Mother's side as well as dads.NOT A GOOD IDEA.DONT SAY IT.My files for both were in a pile and needed sorting.but i was afraid to do it,so put it off and put it of.then left it for some time now come back.now have the files in a bit more order.....Now the problem is William Freeman Married Ann Thomas in 1850 Liverpool.she had three children from her marriage to her first husband.But I'm not shore if this is the same William born hunts as the william Freeman in 1841 census for huntingdon.

[bedfordshire boy]

Hi Edwardo,

I'm Doing My Mother's side as well as dads.NOT A GOOD IDEA.DONT SAY IT.

Nothing wrong with it. I do half a dozen different lines at the same time, English and French.  You've got to do something while you're waiting for certificates to arrive, or for look up requests to materialise.  But you need to organise your research, preferably writing it all up as you go in a commercial genealogy program. I'm hopeless with paper and would be totally lost without The Master Genealogist.  Do you use a genealogy program? If not you should.

But back to your William Freeman born c 1822 at Colne, Hunts according to the 1851 census, where he was a miller. Do you have his marriage certificate to Ann Thomas? Was his father named as William? In 1851 in Bluntisham William age 66 and his son James age  34 were both millers, both b Somersham. In 1841 they were all in Bluntisham, William  45, James 25 miller, and William 20. On the face of it this is your William in Liverpool. Colne is only a mile outside Somersham.

But to sort out which William it was who was the father of James and William you need to check Somersham and Colne parish registers, neither of which is on the IGI or BVRI, nor have they been filmed by the LDS, nor is a transcript available from Hunts FHS. You either have to go to Huntingdon Records Office to view the parish registers, or ask them to do it for you. Then you'll get the name of William senior's wife, who I expect to be Alice. She was buried in Somersham on 20 Aug 1826 aged 38. There was no wife with William in Bluntisham in 1841.

David           

[EDWARDO]

Marriage Certificate for william Freeman (who is 29 in the Liverpol Census.) St philips Church Liverpool 1850.
 William Freeman Bachalor Ann Thomas Widow.Age Full for both Profession Miller Father William Freeman his proffession Miller.So that looks good so far....Two Things.Why did he leave huntingdon and go to Liverpool??in the 1851 Census for Liverpool there is this William Freeman Head 29 Miller b huntingdonshire.
                                                                        William Thomas stepson 16  Laourer b Lancashire Tarbuck
                                                                        Peter Thomas Stepson  11 Labourer b Lancashire Tarbuck
                                                                        Jane Thomas Stepdau  6                   b Lancashire Tarbuck
 His wife was at a relatives house showing of the new baby.
The puzzle is in the next Census 1861 Liverpool
 William Freeman Head 39 corn Miller b Huntingdonshire
 Ann Freeman      Wife  44                  b Lancashire Tarbuck
 Josiah Freeman   Son   10                 B West Derby
 James Freeman   Son     8                 B West Derby.
 Jacob  Freeman   Son     5                 B West Derby
 Isaac  Freeman   Son     5                 B west Derby      Why the change into jewish names.?

[bedfordshire boy]

I don't see the 1861 as a puzzle. Jacob and Isaac were biblical names, not Jewish names.

Don't know why he should have moved to Liverpool though. But I'm pretty sure it's the same William in Liverpool as was in Bluntisham. You need to check Colne and Somersham parish registers though

David