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Re: Thomas Richey and kin 1914 and earlier
« Reply #18 on: Friday 26 February 10 17:31 GMT (UK) »
Thanks you!!!Amazing..we just took our first step into that generation!!!

Thomas RICHEY - father was ROBERT RICHEY
yet, all Thomas sisters , Catherine and Helen, had the maiden name HOLLINGSWORTH?

It is absolutely the correct family, but maybe there was an adoption or stepfather?? hmm, confusing.


Alfred and Catherine Ferguson are at RG11 329 14 23 in 1881
Thomas Richey is not with them then, though


The 1881 yields useful further relatives - a sister for Catherine (Helen HOLLINGWORTH  b abt 1860 London) and an aunt Catherine HOLLINGWORTH, unm, b abt 1826 Southampton).

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Re: Thomas Richey and kin 1914 and earlier
« Reply #19 on: Friday 26 February 10 17:34 GMT (UK) »
Sadly, not very much.....my sister in law ran some basic searches for Thomas Richey and Catherine Ferguson (brother and sister and our starting point) and found the only instances to be in Durham. She then matched a Robert Richey (their gathers name) in Durham too. Could be entirely coincidental.


Her research was very basic and nowhere as in depth as the wonderful details that everyone has helped me discover today.


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There is still a nagging possibility he had Durham connections.

Can you enlarge on this, please?

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Re: Thomas Richey and kin 1914 and earlier
« Reply #20 on: Friday 26 February 10 17:35 GMT (UK) »
1861

RG9 179 108 11
Portugal Street, St Clements Dane (near the Strand)

Thomas Hollingsworth 34 bookbinder bn Southampton
Isabella 33 bn London
Emily 7
Katherine 5
Helen 1    all bn London

looks like the girls!

now we need to see why brother has surname Richey ....
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: Thomas Richey and kin 1914 and earlier
« Reply #21 on: Friday 26 February 10 17:41 GMT (UK) »
Possibly Isabella dies ... no guarantees it is her

Death

Oct/Nov/Dec 1866
Holborn 1b 406
Isabella Hollingsworth age 41


I just wish I could find some or any of them in 1871
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: Thomas Richey and kin 1914 and earlier
« Reply #22 on: Friday 26 February 10 17:50 GMT (UK) »
Simply awesome stuff!!!

Yes, the Richey thing is bizarre, as it is absolutely the correct family.

Thomas Richey names Robert Richie (actor) as his father on 1914 army papers, and Catherine Ferguson ( almost certainly nee Hollingsworth) as his sister.

We know he resided with her when she was a married woman.

Yet Katherines father is listed from a very early stage as Thomas Hollingsworth (per 1861 census)

An Isabella and Thomas Hollingsworth marriage certificate may help.
Perhaps Thomas Richey was 'taken in' by the Hollingsworths,


1861

RG9 179 108 11
Portugal Street, St Clements Dane (near the Strand)

Thomas Hollingsworth 34 bookbinder bn Southampton
Isabella 33 bn London
Emily 7
Katherine 5
Helen 1    all bn London

looks like the girls!

now we need to see why brother has surname Richey ....

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Re: Thomas Richey and kin 1914 and earlier
« Reply #23 on: Friday 26 February 10 17:53 GMT (UK) »
Possible marriage for Thomas and Isabel[la]:

Marriage Dec qtr 1852

Thomas HOLLINGSWORTH
Isabel TAYLOR

Holborn 1b 602
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Thomas Richey and kin 1914 and earlier
« Reply #24 on: Friday 26 February 10 17:56 GMT (UK) »
Maybe Isabella left Thomas and had an affair with Robert Richey.
Maybe Thomas Richey just made up a father because for some reason he didnt get on with his real father.

It is still a mystery.

I wish we could locate any of them in 1871 to try and piece together what may have happened.

Or a Birth reg for Thomas (either Richey or Hollingsworth)

At some stage you will have to but some certs to back up any theories.
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: Thomas Richey and kin 1914 and earlier
« Reply #25 on: Friday 26 February 10 17:57 GMT (UK) »
I think this is Thomas HOLLINGSWORTH before his marriage (has a sister Catherine whom we later see in 1881 as Cath. FERGUSON's aunt):


1851 census: HO107/1496/299/51
44 Seymour St, St Pancras, Middlesex


Cathn HOLLINGSWORTH Head Widow 45 Hants Southampton
Elizh do Daur Unm 25 Teacher of music Hants Portsmouth
Cathn do Daur Unm 24 Teacher of music Hants Southampton
Thos R. do Son Unm 23 Teacher of music Hants Southampton
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Thomas Richey and kin 1914 and earlier
« Reply #26 on: Friday 26 February 10 18:02 GMT (UK) »
Christenings:

21 Aug 1853 St George Bllomsbury
Emily Sarah Louisa Hollingsworth

15 Jun 1856
St Andrews Holborn
Katherine Elizabeth Hollingsworth

parents on bothoccasions
Thomas Robert Hollingsworth and Isaballa Matilda Hollingsworth
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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