Author Topic: Need Help *COMPLETED*  (Read 6558 times)

Offline temiro tawa

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 36
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Need Help *COMPLETED*
« on: Saturday 27 February 10 15:34 GMT (UK) »
Can someone out there help please. I'm trying to find anything about John Oswald O'Dwyer ( may have changed to Dwyer ) born about 1852 ( I believe ) in Tipperary, Ireland,  died 14 Aug 1929 in Cambridge, New Zealand.
He was married in Guertmaker, Ireland to Margaret Corcoran. They had a Daughter Nora Ann ODwyer ( would like to know if there are other siblings )  Later married Eliza Vickers.
Nora born abt 1887 in Cambridge, New Zealand, and died abt 1950 in Kingseat Mental hospital in Auckland.

I am ignorant as to finding New Zealand records. Ancestry.ca is no help.

Offline telephonist

  • RootsChat Veteran
  • *****
  • Posts: 773
    • View Profile
Re: Need Help
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 27 February 10 16:48 GMT (UK) »
https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/Search
There are several Dwyer births you can have a look at on this very good website.
Hall -Devon,
Atkinson-Gateshead Durham.
Weir - Swansea
Sumner - Warwickshire
Morrall - Warwickshire
Hill -Cornwall, Australia and NZ
Penhallurick - Cornwall and Australia
McNally - Ireland and UK
Tooze - Devon

Offline Thamesite2017

  • I have turned off all email notifications
  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 5,248
    • View Profile
Re: Need Help
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 27 February 10 17:37 GMT (UK) »
John is buried Hautapu Cemetery, have you looked at Monumental inscription, purchase records.

Eliza is in cem record index as Elizabeth..

What year did he marry Margaret in Ireland and when did they come to NZ
Death certificate for john would give number of children
From BMD site mentioned above he died O'DWYER
1929/5944 O'Dwyer  John  77Y

Bye

Althea

Offline Thamesite2017

  • I have turned off all email notifications
  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 5,248
    • View Profile
Re: Need Help
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 27 February 10 17:47 GMT (UK) »
I see now that JOhn married Elizabeth Vickers 1912, so any children from that marriage you would need to check the birth fiche available at most public libraries.

There are a lot of John DWYER/O'DWYERS

Can anyone find the right spelling for Nora Ann's birth rego, so we can find other children??
BYe
Althea


Offline johnbarr

  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • ******
  • Posts: 1,608
  • I need a little help along the way !!
    • View Profile
Re: Need Help
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 27 February 10 19:43 GMT (UK) »
BDM shows five children born to a Margaret and John Dwyer  between 1879 and 1895 but no Nora  ???
May not be connected.

Archives NZ - Auckland hold records for divorce of a Margaret Dwyer Year 1908-1914. Several possible marriages of Margaret Dwyer in years soon after.

It looks like Nora Ann married John Price Davies in 1915  ???
Marriage Cert would give more details of her parents perhaps?

John B
Barraclough, Barron, Hunter, Marsden, Pawson, Sowden, Street, Vowless,

Offline temiro tawa

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 36
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Need Help
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 28 February 10 02:47 GMT (UK) »
thanks to all 3 of you.  :) and such speedy response.

No, I have not looked at Monumental Inscription or purcase records. Maybe there is a purchase record for " Bridgewater Farm " in Cambridge.

I'm not sure when Margaret Corcoran married John, only that he was living in Gurtmakaar, Ireland at the time. I estimate between 1872 and 1879. I have his birth as abt 1852 , but not confirmed.

 I have found a John O'Dwyer arrival in Sydney, Australia 27 July 1907.
( possibly on way to N.Z ) .............from the NSW, Australia, Unassisted Immigrant Passenger Lists- 1826-1922.

So the Divorce of a Margaret and John between 1908-14 could be my John.

Have John's death as 14 Aug 1929.

Have Nora Ann being born at "Bridgewater Farm " Cambridge, N.Z. in 1887. need confirmation of birth details. Married John Price Davies ( my Great Grandfather ) on 24 Feb 1915 at registry office, Auckland. Divorced 11 June 1926 in Auckland.

Possibly had a sister - Mary , born 1879 - not sure where, ( so 5 children between 1879 & 1895 is a possibility if this works out ) On 25th June 1902 She married James Phillips at Auck Registry Office. Mary died 13 April 1915 in N.Z. ( In Cambridge I believe ) need to know if Nora & Mary were sisters.

Anything you can offer would be greatly appreciated.

Offline johnbarr

  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • ******
  • Posts: 1,608
  • I need a little help along the way !!
    • View Profile
Re: Need Help
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 28 February 10 03:13 GMT (UK) »
Hi Temiro,
Welcome to Rootschat - sorry should have said that sooner  8)

Re five children, you can go to BDM search site mentioned by "telephonist" https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/search/

Enter Dwyer as family name, mother's name as Margaret and date range - e.g. 01/01/1870 to 31/12/1899.

Sort results by date (by clicking on "Registration Number") then by Fathers name (by clicking on "Father's Given Name")
and you should then have all children born to Margaret and John and sorted in date order.
Sorry, but there is no Mary, so maybe not your family.  ::)

Nothing promising when searched for O'Dwyer, and I cannot think of any other possible spelling.

Suggest you order Death printout for John (as Althea mentions above) as next step, then possibly marriage Cert for Nora Ann.
Cheers
John B
Barraclough, Barron, Hunter, Marsden, Pawson, Sowden, Street, Vowless,

Offline percy porter

  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • ******
  • Posts: 1,264
  • Alan NZ
    • View Profile
Re: Need Help
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 28 February 10 03:27 GMT (UK) »
Archway have 4 records for a John Price Davies, 2 military records held in Wellington, and 2 divorce records (Nora Ann 1923) held at Auckland.

You can search for other records yourself here. http://archway.archives.govt.nz/Home.do

Alan NZ
Britton:Hawkins: London
Stephenson: Cox: London
Straughan: Sweeney: Newcastle/Durham
Liddell: Hobson:Newcastle/Durham
Horne:Oxfordshire/ Bienfait/Winnipeg
Voss: Dorset

Offline Lucy2

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 15,570
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Need Help
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 28 February 10 03:54 GMT (UK) »
Hi temiro tawa

Have you seen this ?

http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/

"Grey River Argus" - 23 December 1908 - DIVORCE COURT - page 4

It gives a good overview of John and Margaret prior to divorce.

~  Lu