*Completed*Richard Wer MAJOR in 1851 and later

[Philcandy]

Can anyone spot Richard Wer MAJOR, born in Somerset in 1817, in 1851 or later censuses?

He married in Worcester in 1844, but without finding him in 1851 or later censuses, I can't be sure of his wife's name (although it could have been Harriet.)  I note that he died in London in the June Quarter of 1871, but it may have been before or after the census for that year.

This request is the continuation of the following thread, where I was looking for his Aunt, Ann Major THRUSH: http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,441482.0.html

Thanks for any help with this.

Kind regards

Philip Candy

[lizdb]

He is certainly elusive on 1851 and 1861 - the only Richard /Harriet Major couple I can see seem well settled in Kent with older children, whereas your couple married in Worcestor.
you may need to get his death cert to see name of imformant (widow Harriett?) or the marriage cert to find out more about him.

[Philcandy]

Thanks for looking for me. The reason I thought her name was Harriet is because there is just one couple on freebmd, but of course that might be wrong.

Is there no Richard MAJOR , born in Frome in about 1817, anywhere to be seen in either 1851 or 61?

His father, James Wer MAJOR, seems to be alive in Frome in 1851, but there's no sign that I can see of the family in 1841. I wonder if they're hiding under a mistranscription somewhere?

Anyway, many thanks for looking for me.

Kind regards

Philip

[Magrat]

Hi

There is a James Mayjor living in Frome in the 1841 census aged 60. He could be the same as the James Major in Frome in 1851 aged 70.

The ref. for the 1841 census is HO107/942 Book/folio 11/50 page 21.

He is alone in this census, no sign of a family.

Regards
Magrat

[Philcandy]

Many thanks for this. I'm sure it's the right person; it looks as if his wife was already dead by the time of the 1841 census.

Thanks so much for your help.

Kind regards

Philip Candy

[JoanCA]

Richard Wer Major married Harriet Davis in 1843 or 1844 (registered 1st qtr, District: Worcester). I am research their daughter, Harriet Rose, born 13 Mar 1855 at 5 Tavistock Street, St. Paul Covent Garden, in Strand district, St. Mary sub-district, Middlesex. Her birth certificate states that her father was a professor of music. Richard died in 1871, wife Harriet in 1879, both in Strand district.I also cannot find them on any census, and would appreciate knowing if you have found them since your 2010 post. I am trying to find the name of her first husband (married before 1883) and what became of him.

[Philcandy]

I'm afraid this family have got me completely baffled. I can't find Richard in any Census from 1841 to 1871, or any reference to his wife Harriet either. Now that you have provided me with the name of one of their children (Harriet Rose) I can't see here either. It's all very surprising.

I'm not sure whose first husband you are referring to?  Do you mean Harriet Rose?  I'd be happy to help, but as I didn't know about her at all, I also don't know who she married.

I assume you know that James Wer Major's wife was originally Elizabeth STEEDS?  She married William HISCOCKS on 28 September 1801, and then remarried James (Richard's father) on 25 April 1814.

I know this doesn't help with finding Richard in the censuses, but it does take him back a generation.

Kind regards

Philip

[JoanCA]

I am wondering if they were out of the county at each census time. Richard Wer Major could have been teaching or performing somewhere. I checked the U.S., Canada and Wales censuses, with no luck.

Daughter Harriet Rose became a musician and an actress, using the name Rose Temple. She married Henry Alex Froom 2 Jun 1883 in New York City.  It was a 2nd marriage for both. Her name was Harriet Rose Major on the marriage license, which named her parents: Richard Major and Harriet Davis.

Henry "Harry" died in 1885 in Russia. Rose returned to England with her son, Charles, born in 1885. She was in Lambeth, London in 1891; Paddington, St. Mary, London, in 1901; and 25 Elms Rd., Clapham Common, in 1911.  Her death in 1939 was registered in the Apr-May-Jun qtr. in Wandsworth, Greater London.

I am researching the Frooms, so only need to go back to Rose's parents on her side, but am interested in knowing if any of the people she was living with on the later censuses were siblings or other relatives.  I do know that Jane Henderson in 1911 was Harry Froom's relative. I had hoped to find her on those earlier censuses to identify her family members.

[Philcandy]

I guess you have already found this, but Henry B FROOM married Agnes Dodds HENDERSON in the September Quarter of 1850 in Chorlton, Lancashire (Vol 20, page 140).  It looks as if Henry Alexander FROOM was born in Chorlton in the March Quarter of 1852 (Vol 8c, page 533) and shortly afterwards, Henry and Agnes headed off to Russia, where they had a number of children registered in the British Chaplaincy in St Petersburg. This might explain why Harry Alex FROOM went to Russia so soon after marrying Harriet; members of his family were perhaps still there.  It also seems possible that Henry (senior) was involved in a partnership concerned with machinery manufacture and export from St Petersburg Russia; there is a reference to him in the London Gazette in 1881.

In any case, I suspect that Henry Alex's first wife was Johanna RICHTER, this would explain the fact this his marriage to Harriet MAJOR was his second.

I have however been unable to find a marriage between Harriet MAJOR and anyone named TEMPLE.

I can tell you that Harriet Rose MAJOR had a large number of cousins in New York, some of whom were linked to the performing arts, or to the artistic community generally. So it is quite possible that she was visiting or staying with family at the time that she met and married Henry FROOM, although I can't see any sign of her in the US censuses for 1860 or 1870 either. Maybe she was "on tour" with her parents.

I'll keep looking, and let you know if I have any inspirations.

Kind regards

Philip Candy