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Amelia F. Allen Miller
« on: Sunday 14 March 10 18:49 GMT (UK) »
Hello everyone,

A while back I posted a topic on the Millers in New England trying to research William H. Miller's side of the family. But now, I'm here to try to solve a little mystery about his wife, Amelia F. Allen.

There are many census' that record Amelia, but the ending ones confuse me, hopefully someone can shed some light on the subject.
Here is the 1850 Census, which is the first census she shows up on.

Name: Amelia F Allen
Age: 7
Estimated birth year: abt 1843
Birth Place: Massachusetts
Gender: Female
Home in 1850 (City,County,State): New Bedford, Bristol, Massachusetts
Family Number: 2570
Household Members: Name Age
Phillip Allen 47
Sarah H Allen 44
Thomas M Allen 15
Maria C Allen 16
Phebe S Allen 14
George P Allen 12
Andrew H Allen 14
Amelia F Allen 7


Next item of information is her bible. In the bible it states

Reward of Merit for procuring funds to aid the cause of Missions Brooklyn July 1854
Presented to Millie F Miller By Jack Sh...?  (Shannon?)
New Bedford Mass

So she would have been 11 years old when presented this bible. I’m not quite sure what she did though to receive this bible, can someone try to explain?

Here is the 1860 census

Name: Amelia F Allen
Age in 1860: 17
Birth Year: abt 1843
Birthplace: Massachusetts
Home in 1860: New Bedford Ward 1, Bristol, Massachusetts
Gender: Female
Post Office: New Bedford
Value of real estate: .
Household Members: Name Age
Sarah K Allen 53
George F Allen 22
Andrew K Allen 21
Amelia F Allen 17
Ellen E Wilbur 6

1870

Name: Amelia F Miller
Birth Year: abt 1843
Age in 1870: 27
Birthplace: Massachusetts
Home in 1870: Providence Ward 6, Providence, Rhode Island
Race: White
Gender: Female
Value of real estate: .
Post Office: Providence
Household Members: Name Age
William H Miller 27
Amelia F Miller 27
Irving F Miller 7
William H Miller 2

1880

Name: Amelia F. Miller
Home in 1880: Providence, Providence, Rhode Island
Age: 37
Estimated birth year: abt 1843
Birthplace: Massachusetts
Relation to Head of Household: Wife
Spouse's name: William H.
Father's birthplace: Massachusetts
Mother's birthplace: Massachusetts
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Occupation: Keeping House
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Female
Household Members: Name Age
William H. Miller 38
Amelia F. Miller 37
Ervin P. Miller 17
Helana F. Miller 4
Mabel R. Miller 3
Maud Miller 10M
Elizabeth Pearl 58

Okay, now here is the big jump. In 1890 there is no census, so we have to skip it. I knew that Amelia had lived past 1910 so I knew she would be on the census. I thought to use the name Millie F. and the 1900 & 1910 census’ showed up. But they do confuse me.

Here is the 1900

Name: Millie F Miller
Home in 1900: Providence Ward 5, Providence, Rhode Island
Age: 50
Birth Date: May 1850
Birthplace: Massachusetts
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relationship to Head of House: Boarder
Father's Birthplace: Massachusetts
Mother's Birthplace: Massachusetts
Mother: number of living children: 3
Mother: How many children: 13
Marital Status: Widowed
Residence : Providence City, Providence, Rhode Island
Occupation: View on Image
Household Members: Name Age
Wilmer H Dixon 35
Millie F Miller 50
Mabel R Miller 23
(Including 8 other boarders)

It says she was born in May of 1850. This would have been very far off from her original birth year of 1843. I originally did not think it was her, but then saw Mabel R. Miller (her daughter) with her in the census. It says she was born in February of 1877 and that is exactly when Mabel was born.

The 1910 does the same thing.

Name: Millie F Miller
Age in 1910: 63
Estimated birth year: abt 1847
Birthplace: Massachusetts
Relation to Head of House: Servant
Father's Birth Place: Massachusetts
Mother's Birth Place: Massachusetts
Home in 1910: Providence Ward 8, Providence, Rhode Island
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Female
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Household Members: Name Age
Wilmer Doxon 45
Millie F Miller 63
Mabel R Miller 33

Her birth year is 1847, which is 4 years off of the original, and 3 years off of 1850. Her birth years seem to keep jumping, and I’m not sure why. But here again is Mabel R. Miller who is her daughter and the dates are perfect for her. Strangley enough, it says Millie is MARRIED. Which is a big shocker, I’m very confused as to who she would be married to. Maybe it’s a transcription error like the dates.

Could anyone try to find out why her name changes on the census and why her dates change as well? My mother thought “Maybe she wasn’t around when the census’ people came and recorded their ages and so they just estimated” would that seem right?

I can’t find her in any 1920 census, but she may be there. Maybe searching Wilmer Dixon (Doxon) will find her.

I hope to hear your opinions too and if you think this is the same person.

Thank you :)

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Re: Amelia F. Allen Miller
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 14 March 10 19:08 GMT (UK) »
I did just find this death record for a Millie F. Miller, wife of William H. Miller.

Name: Millie F Miller
Relation: wf
Kin 1: William H Miller
Kin 2: Abbie F Miller
Death Date: 7 Oct 1920
Age: 72 yrs

If you do the math, she would have been around 6 years old when recieving the bible. Do you think this is possible?

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Re: Amelia F. Allen Miller
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 14 March 10 19:28 GMT (UK) »
Need more time to read and refresh my memory on this but dates on census are'nt exact in many cases. So it could very well be Amelia/Millie -  she should also show on the 1920 census but I can't see anything under Millie F or Amelia at the moment.  ??? Can't see Wilmer H Dixon/Doxon either !!  ???
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Re: Amelia F. Allen Miller
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 14 March 10 21:46 GMT (UK) »
Thought Mabel might have stayed with her Mother but I cannot find her in 1920.
Possibility for Mabel R Miller in 1930 Albion, Cassia, Idaho. Teacher. Mabel was a teacher on the 1910 census.
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Re: Amelia F. Allen Miller
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 14 March 10 22:20 GMT (UK) »
yes, the Mabel in Albion is the right person. The story was that she was sick in her teens and had to move out to a dryer climate so she moved out west. I didn't know that she lived in New Bedford in 1900 and 1910. But yes, that is her in the 1930

Maybe we can't find Millie/Amelia because that death record may be correct.

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« Reply #5 on: Sunday 14 March 10 22:25 GMT (UK) »
The 1900 Census for Minnie says she had 13 children, although only 3 were living.  You possibly would'nt have them all if they died as babies or between census years but what is your count on what you know so far ? Is it near to 13 ?
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Re: Amelia F. Allen Miller
« Reply #6 on: Monday 15 March 10 00:21 GMT (UK) »
I know which kids were living:

Robert Miller b. 1863 d. 24 May 1929
Helena F. Miller b. December 17, 1874 d. June 27, 1964
Mabel R. Miller b. 26 Feb 1877 d. 1964

These are the ones who I know lived and died. I think it is pretty likely that she had 13 kids and only 3 were living in 1900 & 1910.

William H. Miller b. 1868 d.  April 29, 1874
Frank M Miller b. 14 Jul 1870 d. 19 May 1872
Elizabeth H. Miller b. 25 Nov 1873 d. 8 Apr 1875
Maud A. Miller b. 23 Jul 1879 d. 15 May 1881
Irving P. Miler b. 1863 d. ???
Charles Miller? (I had been told about him, but have never seen him in a census or anything)


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Re: Amelia F. Allen Miller
« Reply #7 on: Monday 15 March 10 00:24 GMT (UK) »
Robert Miller was an actor in Old Western Films. I've been trying to find anything about him, but have not found anything.

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Re: Amelia F. Allen Miller
« Reply #8 on: Monday 15 March 10 02:23 GMT (UK) »
We are trying to work out if Millie is Amelia - My question was how many children have you accounted for - is it near to the 13 stated in that 1900 census and only 3 living ? 

Your reply:-  I know which kids were living.
I think it is pretty likely that she had 13 kids

You have to work on the information that you see - where is Robert Miller in 1870 ?
Where and which census does Charles Miller appear on ?

An Ervin P Miller appears on the 1900 census, albeit his age might be out by a couple of years but he could be a child of Amelia !! That would mean 4 living + Charles you were told about = 5 + Robert = 6

It is still not proving if Millie is the correct one - to many "ifs" and "maybe"




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