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1891 & 1901 census
« on: Thursday 25 March 10 21:22 GMT (UK) »
Hi all,
 I'm looking for the following couple on these 2 census so if anyone can help it would be greatly appreciated.

Robert & Sarah ALLISON

I'm not sure of when or where they were born but I found their marriage taking place in 1887 in the Middlesbrough District so hope they stayed around the area. I"m hoping they may have some of Sarah's WATERHOUSE children with them from her previous marriage, especially a son Thomas.

Thanks for any help,
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Re: 1891 & 1901 census
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 25 March 10 21:34 GMT (UK) »
years of birth would help   ;)
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Re: 1891 & 1901 census
« Reply #2 on: Friday 26 March 10 10:50 GMT (UK) »
I think Robert Allison may have married the other Sarah on the page, Sarah Ann Spencer

1891 61 Queen St East, Thornaby RG12/4019 folio 99 pg 24
Robert Allison head mar 37 stationary engine driver b. Romaldkirk
Sarah Ann wife 27 b. Malton
Jane Ellen dau 8 b. Durham, Stockton
Emily dau 8 months b. South Stockton

more than one John & Sarah Spencer combination in 1891.
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: 1891 & 1901 census
« Reply #3 on: Friday 26 March 10 15:55 GMT (UK) »
Thank-you for your help.

The reason I say Sarah's second marriage was to Robert Allison  was because when Thomas Waterhouse came to Canada in 1920 he stated his closest relative in England was his mother Mrs. S. Allison who lived in Barmby Moor. I did a search for a Waterhouse & Allison marriage and found the one in 1887.

I guess I will have to search for a different marriage although it could of taken place after the 1901 census.

I have a birth for the son Thomas Waterhouse in 1884 in the Scarbrough District, maybe he would show upsomewhere on these census.

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Re: 1891 & 1901 census
« Reply #4 on: Friday 26 March 10 22:27 GMT (UK) »
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,445860.0.html

Is the Thomas found in this post the right one?

Possible in 1901 in correct area for his 1906 marriage

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ERY/Pocklington/index.html

1901 Yapham cum Meltonby RG13/4453 folio 52 pg 2
James Jebson head mar 32 farmer b. Bishop Wilton
Lilian Gerturde wife 25 b. Heckmondike
Sarah Margaret Stennet servant 16 genreal servant domestic b. Goodmanham
Thomas Waterhouse 16 horseman on farm b. Arthington

Do you have his marriage certificate for his father's name & occupation?
Do you have his birth certificate?
Have you looked for him on the 1911 census?

In case you don't have access, the census referred to in the other post is this
1891 East Stamford Bridge RG12/3899 folio 34 pg 7
John Wm Dickons head 24 blacksmith b. Gale Helmsley
Emily sister 28 b. gate helmsley
Henry brother 20 blacksmith b. Stamford Bridge
Thomas Waterhouse nephew 6 b. Pool
James Easton 23 blacksmith b. Pocklington

in 1901, the same John has a different Waterhouse nephew with him, but he has same place of birth as the 1901 Thomas

Stamford Bridge RG13/4482 folio 38 pg 10
John W Dickons head mar 34 blacksmith b. Gate Helmsley
Harriett wife 34 b. Skirpenbeck
Lilly dau 7 b. Stamford Bridge
Hettie dau 3 b. Stamford Bridge
Robert Waterhouse nephew 17 blacksmith b. Artington

I've checked the Dickons family and there wasn't a Sarah, but there was a Mary Ann.
marriage reg
Mary Ann Dickons dec qtr 1881 Leeds vol 9b pg 748 with John Waterhouse on the same page

death reg
John Waterhouse 33 june qtr 1885 Pocklington vol 9d pg 51

1891 East Stamford Bridge RG12/3899 folio 35 pg 9
Mary Ann Waterhouse head widow 31 living on own means b. Stamford Bridge
Elsie dau 9 b. Arthington
Robert son 7 b. Arthington

Mary Ann remarries in june qtr 1894 Pocklington vol 9d pg 115 to George Snell. His death is registered dec qtr 1909 and then Mary Ann Snell marries sept qtr 1914 Pocklington 9d pg 161 to Septimus Allison. She is Mrs S Allison, because that is her husband's initial.

In 1921, Septimus Allison was a carrier from Barmby on the Moor, leaving the Black Bull.
http://www.pocklingtonhistory.com/archives/people/directories/1921_kellys/index.php
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: 1891 & 1901 census
« Reply #5 on: Friday 26 March 10 22:48 GMT (UK) »
these look to be the birth regs for the Waterhouse children in the registration district covering Arthington

Elsie Waterhouse march qtr 1882 Wharfedale vol 9a pg 130
Robert Waterhouse june qtr 1883 Wharfedale vol 9a pg 144
Thomas Waterhouse march qtr 1885 Wharfedale vol 9a pg 129
 
1901 Thornton, Pocklington RG13/4453 folio 15 pg 3
George Snell head mar 61 ag lab b. Thornton
Mary Anne wife 41 b. Stamford Bridge
Harry grandson 7 b. Thornton

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The marriage cert and birth certs for Thomas would confirm the links.
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: 1891 & 1901 census
« Reply #6 on: Friday 26 March 10 23:20 GMT (UK) »
Thank-you so much Osprey. I think you have this family all figured out and I assumed all the wrong births and marriages. Thanks again for straightening me out. The next step will be to order those certificates.

shearg
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