Help needed in deciphering handwriting on Birth Cert

[Little Nell]

Ooh - interesting:

Ruth Swetman married Charles Lawrence 18 Feb 1800 in Salehurst.

Can't be the same one though!  I think this is her mother.  Ruth Swetman baptised in 1797 is shown as illegitimate, mother Ruth.  This Ruth had another illegitimate child named Charles in 1800.

So perhaps Ruth junior took Lawrence as her surname after her mother married in 1800 - to her father?

Nell

[mankey]

Nell
Very interesting
Although I have popped a brain cell working out the relationships
I shall pursue this line of enquiry
Thanks
John

[trish1120]

Excellent work Nell.
Looks very good to me

1841 Census
Salehurst, Sussex
HO107/1108/7/Salehurst

Ruth LAWRENCE, 65
Hanah, 30
Both born in County, no occupations shown

Christening IGI, extracted;
Hannah LAWRENCE, 25 May 1806, Salehurst, Sussex
Parents, CHARLES and RUTH
Siblings;
GEORGE, 18 July 1802
ELIZABETH, 22 April, 1804

Possible and maybe not

1851 Census
Roberts Bridge
Salehurst, Sussex
HO107/1639/243/34

Ruth LAURENCE, 80, Head, Widow, Formerly wife of Ag lab, born Dallington, Sussex
Mary OSBORNE, 75, Lodger, Widow, formerly Ag labs wife, born Mountfield, Sussex

To help your brain
Ruth swetman Snr gives birth to Ruth and Charles illegitimately 1797/1800
Marries Charles Lawrence/Laurence 1800
Has 3 more children with him


Trish

[trish1120]

Christening of possible Ruth;
Ruth SWEATMAN, 25 March 1770, Dallington, Sussex, England
Parents, RICHARD and CATHARINE

Submitted record has Richard SWETMAN marrying Catharine CROUCH, 16 April 1765, Brightling, Sussex

[alpinecottage]

Assuming that John's certificate has come from GRO, I've found that if you email the local Register Office with the details from the certificate you have (to show you're not trying to pull a fast one) and then query, in this case,  the mother's maiden name, they will look at their copy of the certificate which will be written in a different hand.  I have done this a couple of times and had a speedy and helpful response.

[mankey]

Trish
Thanks for your help - you are unearthing some gems

alpinecottage
I shall give this a go - its worth confirming our theory
How do you locate the local office - is there a particular site that formally lists the local offices?
John

[alpinecottage]

Google "Sussex Register office", or "what register office covers....(name of place)" and you should find it.

Sorry I can't help more as I'm not familiar with Sussex.

[trish1120]

Hi John,
You are very welcome.
Good luck with it all

[mankey]

I emailed Hastings (East Sussex) Registrar sending a copy of my GRO cert. They have responded v. quickly and advised by email that the name on their records is Ruth Laurence.
Excellent work all round - thanks.
John