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William Henry MOYLE of Helston
« on: Wednesday 14 April 10 20:13 BST (UK) »
I am trying to find any information about my wife's Great grandfather William Henry Moyle who was married to Eliza Jane Jordan. The 1891 census shows them living in Well Lane Helston. We also know that they lived in Lady Street were my wife's Grandmother Kate lived as a girl.
We believe that William Henry was deported to America sometime between 1900 & 1911 but don't know why.
Any info would be very useful.

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Len   :)
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Re: William Henry Moyle of Helston
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 14 April 10 20:53 BST (UK) »
Well I am looking on ukw  and finding  quite a few interesting WH Moores  so need more re dates...

xin

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Re: William Henry Moyle of Helston
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 14 April 10 21:04 BST (UK) »
Hi Xin

William Henry MOYLE born 1867 the son of William Moyle and Eliza shown living in Wendron Street Helston in the 1881 census.
Don't have much more to go on. ???

Len
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Re: William Henry Moyle of Helston
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 14 April 10 21:13 BST (UK) »
Ok   I found that... There are absolutely loads of public trees on 'ukw'  i didnt find any with more info than you have,  but havent searched deeply... there is one I thought could be yours... not sure  - so if it is you have seen all the others...

will have to leave it for now...

xin


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Re: William Henry Moyle of Helston
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 14 April 10 21:27 BST (UK) »
to be deported to somewhere would mean that the person came from there originally. William Henry was born in Helston according to census entries. Is it possible that he was working in the US? Many Cornishmen, especially miners, left to work abroad.

There are 2 children born between 1901 & 1911 showing in the opc's transcribed records, second being Cecil born 1/6/1903 which cuts down window for him leaving.

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cricket5/hel.htm

Have you looked on the records for people leaving UK at this time?
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: William Henry MOYLE of Helston
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 14 April 10 23:46 BST (UK) »
Hi Len,

As Osprey has mentioned deported does not seem to be the right word. Just wondering what you mean - Are you suggesting that William Henry may have done something wrong which forced him leave England?

Do you have any more information? I note by the 1911 census index there appear to be younger children in the household right down to 4 months of age and Eliza Jane still of an age to have been the mother. (I can not see the relationships to Eliza Jane from the index) Just wondering if you have purchased this entry and if so what is Eliza Jane's status? I am not spotting William Henry MOYLE in the US 1910/1920 census.

Cheers Kris  :)
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Re: William Henry MOYLE of Helston
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 15 April 10 20:40 BST (UK) »
Hi Osprey And Kris
Thanks for your input as i'm new to this site. Deported does seem the wrong word and should have been transported as we believe that he did do something wrong to make him leave. Most of the info we have is from the daughter of Kate Moyle, IGI and OPC.
I have looked at OPC and see a Beatrice & Cecil and it appears from ancestry .co both of these died the same year as their birth. that may be why we did not know of them. Ethel had a daughter Edith May in 1911 out of wedlock and was commited to an asylum with the daughter being brought up by Clara Moyle, Ethel's sister.
Have not purchased any entries as yet.

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Len  :)
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Ridgers, Hampshire
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Re: William Henry MOYLE of Helston
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 15 April 10 21:30 BST (UK) »
he certainly wasn't transported to the US - that stopped with American Independence. He may have left on his own account though.

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/education/candp/punishment/g09/g09cs1.htm

I found a record of a William Moyle aged 37, stone cutter, leaving Liverpool for New York in 1905. Looks like a possible. You could try the Ellis Island site.

http://www.ellisisland.org/search/passSearch.asp?

The only Edith M Moyle registration in 1911 is in Sculcoates, that's a long way from Helston.

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Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: William Henry MOYLE of Helston
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 01 July 10 23:27 BST (UK) »
I too am a great grand daughter of William Henry Moyle, and have been trying to find where he went, I understood that he went overseas (USA?) to work, but that everyone was pleased to see him go.  A cousin of mine has found that William Henry served prison sentences for housebreaking when younger.  I remember May, who was brought up by Clara, I understood that May's Mother had a second child Marjorie, also I think out of wedlock, I knew Marjorie too, I always thought that Marjorie's Mother died in childbirth, but have no proof of that.

The 1911 census only shows Eliza Jane, with daughters Louie 16 and Ivy aged 8.