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Re: Is this William my man?
« Reply #9 on: Monday 19 April 10 16:35 BST (UK) »
St Margarets is the (C of E) parish they lived in.  In 1861 in addition to the 8 or 9 C of E churches in Leicester, there were 28 chapels of which one was Roman Catholic and the remaining 27 were various Baptists, Methodists, Wesleyans etc and also a synagogue.

I don't know Leicester records at all, but I'd put money on all the existing records from all these places of worship not being on IGI.  You know she married somewhere in Leicester because there's a marriage cert, so the easy but expensive way to find out where is to buy the cert.  The  labourious but possibly cheaper way is to track down and trawl through all these other records.

I suppose the real question is "Is finding this information worth £10?" and as it will be your £10.......... :-\
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Re: Is this William my man?
« Reply #10 on: Monday 19 April 10 21:52 BST (UK) »
Thank you for the suggestion Alpinecottage, Lucy`s baptism is not on the IGI, she was with her parents (James and Mary Willis) in 1861 though, in Leicester St Margarets

Greeting’s Again.   Gert.

I just wonder if Mary Willis was the Mother of Lucy born c 1843 ?

Reasons being :~

St Margaret’s Baptisms 1842.

Parish Baptism Registers No’. 969.
27th. November.
Lucy. Daughter of James & Lucy Willis

MARRIAGE. 1833.
St: Margaret’s Parish Church.

James Willis.~ Lucy ROSS.
25th December.
By Banns. 

1851 Census  HO 107 / 2088 / 537 / 13.
shows James aged. 37 and a WIDOWER
and Lucy is aged. 8.

BURIAL found to back this up :~

1850..
St: Margaret’s Parish Church.
Burial register No’. 1245.
Lucy Willis.
Abode…….Leicester.
11th. August.
Aged...... 35.

 Second marriage of James to a Mary 1851 ~ 61.

Two possibilities :~

June Qrt. 1852.
James Willis. ~ Mary Ann BULL. ...Leicester District...7a. 349.

March Qrt.1858.
James Willis. ~ Mary CLARKE. Leicester District. 7 a. 234.

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Re: Is this William my man?
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 20 April 10 08:21 BST (UK) »
St Margarets is the (C of E) parish they lived in.  In 1861 in addition to the 8 or 9 C of E churches in Leicester, there were 28 chapels of which one was Roman Catholic and the remaining 27 were various Baptists, Methodists, Wesleyans etc and also a synagogue.

I don't know Leicester records at all, but I'd put money on all the existing records from all these places of worship not being on IGI.  You know she married somewhere in Leicester because there's a marriage cert, so the easy but expensive way to find out where is to buy the cert.  The  labourious but possibly cheaper way is to track down and trawl through all these other records.

I suppose the real question is "Is finding this information worth £10?" and as it will be your £10.......... :-\

I know what you mean about sending for the cert Alpinecottages, a bit more than 10 pound for me though i`m in Oz and having sent for a heap before the price went up, have depleted the funds for certs.

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Re: Is this William my man?
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 20 April 10 08:52 BST (UK) »
Yes, I know it's a really hard decision but you've got a good while to think about it (and save up!) as the GRO are still working through the backlog from the people who ordered to beat the price rise...and that includes me  ::)

Really interesting post from Mike from Leicester, though - that all looks very possibly yours.

Good luck
Perrins - Manchester and Staffs
Honan - Manchester and Ireland
Hogg - Manchester 19 cent
Anderson - Newcastle mid 19 cent
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Comer - Manchester and Galway


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Re: Is this William my man?
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 20 April 10 08:53 BST (UK) »
Thank you for those Mike, looks like her parish was St Margarets and Mary was not her mother, wonder if they married at the register office. Which i know you can`t help with.

Might have to start saving my pennies again.

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Re: Is this William my man?
« Reply #14 on: Friday 23 April 10 00:02 BST (UK) »
Greeting’s Again…….Gert.

Sorry but having trawled the Church Registers (12)
which were operating for the years 1852 / 58 / 63 ….

at the Records Office today..........I’m afraid I drew a blank…

But seeing the Certificate ref No’s …They seem to point to either……
a Register Office or Nonconformist event……

So…   " It’s Hand in pocket time "  ..... I’m afraid…… :'(

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Draper.                   Hirons.
Combs.                   Botts.
Stallard.                 Hall.

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Re: Is this William my man?
« Reply #15 on: Friday 23 April 10 06:29 BST (UK) »
I think you are right Mike, need to find some pocket change, digs deep, finds nothing, will have to wait for payday, bummer.

I think its more likly to be a Register Office wedding with this lot.

Thank you for your time Mike, its appreciated

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Re: Is this William my man?
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 12 May 10 07:21 BST (UK) »
Marriage cert has arrived, they married 6 May 1863 in the Archdeacon Lane Chapel, which is baptists.

William`s father was John Gough (deceased) occupation Tailor, which is correct.

Bonus is Harriet Bull was one of the witnesses, who`s marriage cert (1852) i am waiting on to proove she belongs to this family.

Harriet/Harrott Gough was baptised in Leicester, every census, but 1841 says she was born in Northampton, but thats a whole new story for me to chase.