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LazyLovers Scavenger Hunt...Everyone Welcome To Join In
« on: Tuesday 20 April 10 10:54 BST (UK) »


Welcome to this weeks Scavenger Hunt and it's something you can really get your teeth into.

Good Luck and Good Hunting

Barbara

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I’m looking to locate Birth/Baptism, Marriage and Death/Burial information for the following gentleman: George Rice Price Parry. He is my 4xGreat Grandfather and the proverbial pain in the neck. I’ve been looking for him for over two years and I’m out of ideas so I’m hoping someone can find him and I can finally put him to rest.

This is what I know about him; He was born in the Isle of Man sometime between 1805 and 1816, according to the census entries.

I have previously asked for help on the boards in locating his birth on the Isle of Man but no evidence has been found; River had a look for me and could only find evidence of PERRY’s being on the island. I contacted someone via the Manx Genealogy web site and he could find no trace of a baptism in 1816 for him. I contacted the Guild of One Name Studies and Barbara, who is looking at the Parry’s has not come across him, except for in the census records.  Discussions are here: http://bit.ly/bAYk8H and here: http://bit.ly/cNZMP2

He worked as a Tailor and was “admitted” twice to the workhouse in Holywell. Discussion about why only George was in the Workhouse in 1861 and I can’t find the rest of the family here: http://bit.ly/9yomPS

Information from the archivist at Flintshire Record Office:

“He first appears on Wednesday 7th March 1860.  His full name is given as "George Rice Price Parry", classed as an "old and infirm man" for dietary purposes...The cause of seeking relief is "bad eyes" and the parish responsible for his relief is Denbigh.  His first meal on admittance was supper. He discharges himself on 16th April 1860... He is re-admitted on 16th January 1861.  The details are the same though he is now written as "George R P Parry" and the cause of relief is described as "blindness".  He discharges himself again on 22nd April 1861. Then he is re-admitted again onSaturday October 26th 1861.  Again the details are the same though the cause of relief is "Bad Sight" ... This time he is admitted by order of the Overseer of Denbigh.  He again discharges himself, on 14th November 1861. There are no other family members mentioned in all of this.”

George and Ann have 5 sons;
Thomas Rice Price Parry (1837-?1874):
GRO Ref: Birth 1837 Q4 Holywell,27 177 - Birth certificate of Thomas Rice Price Parry (03 October 1837) father is shown to be George Rice Price Parry, Tailor abode: New Road, Holywell. Image:  http://bit.ly/aQg5QK
GRO Ref: Marriage 1861 Q2 Holywell,11b 467 – Married Ellen Hayes at Mold Parish Church on 29 June 1861 (from PR) Father was listed as George Parry. However I cannot remember if it said he was deceased or not.

Owen Rice Price Parry (1840-1843):GRO Ref: Birth 1840 Q2 Holywell,27 224; GRO Ref: Death 1842 Q1 Holywell,27 189

George Rice Price Parry (1842-?):GRO Ref: Birth 1842 Q4 Holywell,27 229

John Rice Price Parry (1846-?):GRO Ref: Birth 1846 Q3 Holywell,27 223 (as John Rice Parry)

Evan Rice Price Parry (1850-?):GRO Ref Birth: 1850 Q4 Holywell,27 211
GRO Ref Marriage: 1879 Q3 Chester,8a 548 to Margaret Ann Jones Discussion about Evan and Margaret going to Chester to marry here: http://bit.ly/c6Hg0E

Family legend has it that he “Went off to London to buy some fabric and never came back. Years later one of his grandchildren was serving military time in South Africa, he was injured and whilst at a field hospital in South Africa the nurse looking after him asked his name. He said he was a Parry, from a place in North Wales called Holywell. This nurse surprised the wounded soldier by saying she knew a Parry from Holywell, & offered to arrange a meet. However when the soldier went to meet the gent, he’d run off. The soldier was convinced it was his Grand Father who’d run off all those years ago.”

Now I’m not sure how true this tale is, but I think it’s likely to contain a grain of truth. The generations may have been mixed up a bit and it could be his son Thomas, but I have tracked George from Holywell in 1841, 1851 and 1861 to Bradford, Yorkshire in 1871.

In 1871 he is in a boarding house and lists himself as a widow. Anne is still at home in Holywell with a couple of the children, also listed as a widow. I believe they had a “poor man’s divorce”. Discussion about the Lodgings here: http://bit.ly/bfFQHt

George Rice Price Parry Evidence

1841 Wales Census [Ref: HO107 Piece 1413 Book 7 ED 11 Folio 20 Page 32]
Image: http://bit.ly/bmTukg

1851 Wales Census [Ref: HO107 Piece 2500 Folio 350 Page 2]
Image: http://bit.ly/99QBV0

1861 Wales Census [Ref: RG6 Piece 4297 Folio 27 Page 3]
Image: http://bit.ly/9Op5Xd

George: 1871 England Census [Ref: RG10 Piece 4461 Folio 68 Page 18]
Image: http://bit.ly/9s3qGT

Anne & Sons: 1871 Wales Census [Ref: RG10 Piece 5640 Folio 74 Page 34]
Image: http://bit.ly/aOebYi

Onley/Only/Olney In Islington.<br />Wallwork In Bolton and Walkden<br />Lamb In Bolton and Ireland<br />Grundy In Bolton<br />Blackledge In Bolton<br />Osbaldeston  ?? ??<br />Barnett in Islington<br />Binyon in Islington
Kitchen in Bolton
Parker in Bolton

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« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 20 April 10 11:24 BST (UK) »
when exactly does GRPP disappear

realistically we are looking for a death for him prior to 1916  :)

so GRPP married Ann who? what was her name on her son Thomas birth certificate?
could they have had children before Thomas?

what do you know about Ann? how old was she when she died, where did she die and when?
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« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 20 April 10 11:32 BST (UK) »
The last trace I have of him in in 1871 on the census in Bradford.

Sorry, Ann's maiden name was OWENS. I haven't found any trace of children prior to Thomas.

I've not been able to find Ann past the 1871 census either, when she was a Domestic Servant, Widow, Living on Rose Hill, Bagilt in Flintshire.

So I also haven't been able to pin down her death but it is likley that she died in / around the Holywell area.

Sorry thats not much use I know  :-\
RICE PRICE PARRY originally OWEN - Isle of Man, Holywell, Bradford & dissapeared!

Davies, Mold
Poulston, Denbighshire
Wright, Mold & Hawarden
Roberts, Flintshire
Darlington, Cheshire, Flintshire
Parry, Flintshire
Ellis, Buckley & Chester

I also run the STEERS One Name Study and am registered with the Guild of One Name Studies

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« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 20 April 10 11:35 BST (UK) »
There is a Geo Isaac Pary chr. 13 May 1810  at St Mathews, Douglas, Isle of Man to John Pary and Margt Clarke. (IGI C038041)

Whilst this doesn't have the right middle names and is from IGI, it could be worth trying to follow up.

Another thought is that the Rice part of the name could be a corruption of Rhys.
Jelly:Rutland/ Leics,
Barnes: Surrey, Gloucs
Claydon: Lincs, Suffolk,
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« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 20 April 10 11:36 BST (UK) »
would ANn be Ann Rice Price Parry or Ann Parry ?  :-\
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« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 20 April 10 11:40 BST (UK) »

Owen Rice Price Parry (1840-1843):GRO Ref: Birth 1840 Q2 Holywell,27 224; GRO Ref: Death 1842 Q1 Holywell,27 189

Deaths Mar 1843    
 
PARRY  Owen Rice Price    Holywell  27 189
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« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 20 April 10 11:46 BST (UK) »
Toni - it would be Ann Parry. The "Rice Price" part definitely comes from George's side of things.

ammonite - this one has been found previously (http://bit.ly/cNZMP2) and discounted because " .... is Pavey not Pary - and also I think he is buried Braddan 18100928" Thanks for looking though.

RICE PRICE PARRY originally OWEN - Isle of Man, Holywell, Bradford & dissapeared!

Davies, Mold
Poulston, Denbighshire
Wright, Mold & Hawarden
Roberts, Flintshire
Darlington, Cheshire, Flintshire
Parry, Flintshire
Ellis, Buckley & Chester

I also run the STEERS One Name Study and am registered with the Guild of One Name Studies

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« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 20 April 10 11:51 BST (UK) »

Deaths Mar 1843    
 
PARRY  Owen Rice Price    Holywell  27 189


Argh, typo... sorry but thank you for correcting.
RICE PRICE PARRY originally OWEN - Isle of Man, Holywell, Bradford & dissapeared!

Davies, Mold
Poulston, Denbighshire
Wright, Mold & Hawarden
Roberts, Flintshire
Darlington, Cheshire, Flintshire
Parry, Flintshire
Ellis, Buckley & Chester

I also run the STEERS One Name Study and am registered with the Guild of One Name Studies

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« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 20 April 10 12:06 BST (UK) »
to save going through everything how old was Ann in 1871 ?
did she have amiddle name?

i am hoping if we can find her death it may help locate George even if they were separated

another thought did George make a will or did he die intestate?
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