Barwick

[ruskimic]

I am tracing the family of Edwin Barwick. His father was Charles Barwick who married ann both born circa 1835.Children to this marriage were Edwin Catherine  George Julie and Arthur.Charles father was also a Charles Barwick who married Mary both born around 1802. Charles the ist was born around Malden Bedfordshire.Chalres the Snd and George were both billiard makers from the census info I have been able to find.
Any one knowing anything about these people any info you could give would be greatly appreciated. I am in australia and am willing to try and locate any info required regarding convicts sent out here.

[JJen]

Hi,

Welcome to RootsChat, hopefully you will find this site most useful as I have.

From looking at the censuses, if I have the correct one then Edwin's mother was called Mary Ann. There is a marriage for a Charles John Barwick to Mary Ann Larner 2nd July 1855, St Paul's Church, Parish of Camberwell. Charles' father was Charles Barwick, Greengrocer and Mary Ann's father was Richard Larner, Coal Merchant.

On the 1881 census the family that you have described has a Mrs Looner, Mother in Law (could have been mis-transcribed) living with them so the above marriage looks right.

I see that Charles is shown as born in France, perhaps LDS may have his birth.

Hope some of that is of help.

JJ

[trish1120]

Is this Charles Jnr and Family?

1881 Census
54 Meeting House lane,
Camberwell, London
RG11/689/102/70

Charles J BARWICK, 46, Head, Mar, Waiter, born France, British Subject
Mary A, 46, Wife, Mar, born Clapham, Surrey
Ewin R (Edwin) , 23, Son, Unemployed Clerk, born Pimlico, Middlesex
Caroline E, 20, Daug, born Pimlico
George H, 15, Son, Born Pimlico
Julie R, 9, Daug, Scholar, born Peckham, Surrey
William P, 7, Son, Scholar, born Peckham
Arthur F, 2,Son, born Peckham
Mrs LOONER ?, 80, Mother in law, W, born Chelsea, Middlesex
Mrs BAKER, 54, Sister in law, W, born Chelsea

Marriage;
Charles John  BARWICK,
Mary Ann LARNER, September 1855, Camberwell, 1d 745

Trish

[trish1120]

Sorry JJ but I had already typed it up
Great minds think alike!

[JJen]

Not a problem, at least it looks as if we are 'singing from the same hymn sheet' 

[trish1120]

Yes

1861 Mary Ann is down as Ann
RG9/51/22/2
Charles BARWICK, 26, billiard maker, born France
Ann, 26, Dressmaker, born Clapham, Surrey
Edwd, 3
Catherine E, 6mths

1871 Census Mary is just M;
RG10/733/140/19
Charles BARWICK, 36, Billiard maker
M, 36
Edwin R, 13
Kate Eliz, 10
George Hy, 5

[JJen]

This may be the Baptism Record for Mary Ann Larner - 29th Sep 1833, Holy Trinity, Clapham, Lambeth, Middlesex.

Father - Richard Larner, trade - Labourer
Mother - Catherine Larner. (Hansby)

The location and father's name ties in nicely. The year of birth is slightly different than declared on the censuses but I know from my family tree that people have been a bit 'economic' with the truth as to their age, especially if their husband could be younger than them.

JJ

[trish1120]

1891 census Charles has his Mother Mary Barwick age 90, born c 1801 Peckham living with him and his family. He is a Waiter/Inn
RG12/481/80/9

This is the only possible I can find in 1861;
RG9/354/83/27

Charles BARWICK, 57 (image could be 59), Head, Mar, Clerk, born Clophill, Bedfordshire
Mary, 59, Wife, Mar, born Fishlake, Yorkshire
Geo H, 21, Son, Unm, shopman, born Calais, France
Harriet F, 18 , Daug, Unm, Seamstress, born Calais, France, Cripple

So they would possibly not appear on 1841 and 1851 Census.

Possible Marriage from IGI;
Charles BORWICK
Mary HIMSWORTH, 24 December 1830, Thorne, Yorkshire

Charles BARRICK
Birth 07 December 1801
Christened 04 January 1802, Clophill, Bedfordshire
Parents, JOHN and RHODA

Now Charles Jnr names his daughter born 1871 Julia Rhoda Barwick so a possible connection.

Trish

[ruskimic]

To every one who has added info for me to look up Thank You ever so much! I did find the census with the family living at meeting house lane so they are the ones I am trying to trace.
I will now  go back and go thru all the info you have kindly sent.
Thanks again
Kim