FLORENCE, Edwin Richard Census 1871

[Catsclaws]

Hello Everyone
I am looking for an ancestor who is missing from Census 1871.   He is Edwin Richard Florence b. 1859 Preston Bagot.   his Mother is  Caroline Florence b 1836 and that his grandparents were William and Elizabeth Florence.
 
He can be found on Census 1861 living with his grandparents but that there is a couple of transcription errors 1) Edwin Flourance  2) he is down as  grand'daughter' instead of son! Also that his middle name has been left out.
By 1971
his mother has Married and started a family but sadly without Edwin , He just  can't be found on Census 1871 . By this time his grandparents have named their youngest son Edwin as well adding to the confusion . My Edwin will be 12 years old .

 I would be so grateful if  anyone can help please
 Thank you for taking time to look
 Regards 
Catsclaws

[groom]

Hi

Is it just the 1871 you can't find him in? He appears in the 1881 and 1891 so has got to be somewhere, but at the moment I can't see him either!

Have you seen the death in 1904 which looks like him?

Jan

[Catsclaws]

Hi Groom .
Many thanks for the time and trouble you are taking . Yes I have all aspects of the poor guys life even that he ended up in All saints where he ended his days . No it is 1871 I need .
He is born Illegitimate and  living with his grand dad in 1861 as a 2 year old and his mum Caroline . I found then that she got married the following year .
I just wanted to know who looked after the poor little lad as his mum seems to have started a family and obviously didn't have him with her . She married a John Hemmings .
I was just wondering because I felt very sad for the poor guy . He is my grt grt Grandad . Oh and I have all his 1881 and 1891 stuff .
Best regards
Jean

[groom]

Hi Jean

Have you got the reference for his grandparents in 1871 as I can't see them either. How old is their son Edwin on this?

Jan

[Catsclaws]

Hi Jan
Many thanks again
I have Elizabeth Florence (Grandmother ) age 66 Staying with her widower son  George and his children . I assume by then that her husband William might have died as it says she is a widow .
( George then goes to America to find a new wife and I have photos of him )
(I have William and Elizabeth going back to 1851 census )
No it is a mystery .
Its a real puzzle isnt it ?
I shall carry this on in the morning as my eye are dropping from a 5am start this morning .
 I think you are as hooked on this as I am
Many thanks again Jan
Regards Jean x

[Catsclaws]

Jan
It was the 1861 Census that I have Edwin at his grandparents house. William and Elizabeth Florence along with Caroline Florence in Preston Bagot .
I am going to look to see if he was staying with any other Florences in the Area or Birmingham today . Thanks again for looking . You were very kind .
best Wishes Jean

[groom]

Hi Jean

I looked earlier and there appear to be only 2 Edwin Florences in the 1871 census - one who is 32 in Yorkshire and the other is 24 in Warwickshire. Strangely enough he was also born in Preston Bagot. I checked the original to see if his age had been transcribed incorrectly, but it is clearly 24 and he is a waggoner, boarding with a farm bailif.

He's got to be somewhere, so it must be a case of his name being transcribed incorrectly. Have you tried looking for him under his mother's new surname? I've had ancesters who took step father's names when children on censuses and then reverted back to their original name on later censuses and certificates.

Very frustrating.

Jan

[Tati]

Hi all 

Isn't he the Edward R Heming in the family of mum and stepdad at RG10/3209 41 8

[groom]

Hi Tati

That's got to be him hasn't it? As I suggested, under his mother's new name. 

Good find.

Jan