Woolwich, St. Mary Magdalene - 1813 records

[gangus]

Valda,
I considered the probability of the others (if any) to be most likely recorded inSt Peter... but alas my 'inside' contact left many years ago.  My last attempt just got a reply saying the records are not for release... guess I got lucky at least once....    A 2nd child - daughter - was born in 1803 in Glasgow, roughly where Lewis' wife originated... can consider maybe she needed family around at the time....  a long haul but will keep hunting....

Thanks again and will check the links you sent.

Glenn

[Valda]

Hi

I believe you think this is Lewis' baptism?

LEWIS ANGUS
Christening: 17 DEC 1775 South Leith, Midlothian, Scotland
Father: JOHN ANGUS
Mother: HELEN WINCHESTER


South Leith I believe is now part of Edinburgh.

Considering my lack of knowledge about how common the surname Angus is in Scotland this may very well be a dead end but have you looked at this Prerogative Court of Canterbury will?

Will of Helen Angus, Wife of Edinburgh , Mid Lothian 22 June 1803 PROB 11/1394

There were three other baptisms for the couple in North Leith
John 1779
Thomas 1781
Helen 1786 possible marriage 1805

so the family may well have still been in the Edinburgh area in 1803


You might expect Scottish wills in general to prove in Scotland

http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/content/help/index.aspx?r=554&407



Regards

Valda

[gangus]

Yep, that is the other end of the line I am trying to prove.  I have Lewis marrying St Nicholas, Gosforth NBL 7/7/1799 to Catherine SCOTT, by Baans and 'both of this Parish'  I believe it is the same person as in the 1775 Christening SCOTLAND.

I will have to try and check the Scottish wills etc. you mention... more to do and will try and work out how to access them.. Thanks again

[Valda]

Hi

Have you obtained a copy of the PCC will?


http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/power-search.asp?searchType=powersearch


Regards

Valda

[gangus]

Valda,
I have the one of Helen, and likely she was Lewis's mother but nothing in it that really ties things in.....  Once I can establish Lewis marr. 1799 NBL as belonging to the Midlothian family then I can get back many more years.... I am 99.9% sure in my mind he fits in there as well as the death in 1813 Woolwich...but I am a stickler for accuracy before I lay total claim......

[exessexgirl]

Don't know if this is any help 

City of London Burials:
? LEWIS. Date of burial 22 Dec 1813. St Luke Old Street. Age 38 yrs. Approx yr of birth 1775. Address at death -  Workhouse.

Lyn

[Valda]

Hi

This family's surname was Angus. The person buried at St Luke Old Street's surname appears to be Lewis with a first name not known which is perhaps more understandable if they died in the workhouse. It doesn't seem the other way around.


Concerning Helen's will there may have been death duties levelled on it.

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/RdLeaflet.asp?sLeafletID=107


The evidence is suggesting Lewis was an artillery officer. Have you tried researching is army career??


Regards

Valda

[gangus]

Valda, I tried many years back using a researcher.... managed to get the full military history of his son John (12th Royal Lancers, 1814-1835) - have heaps of info even including newspaper articles etc. on him - interesting careers after the Army hence the references I managed to locate. 
Alas the researcher couldn't find a thing on Lewis ANGUS.

A couple of certificates circa 1852'ish (wifes death and another one) mentions him as having been a Military Officer.
Had discounted that for a while once I found him recorded as a clerk in HM Tower of London 1811... then the new info re death at Woolwich and that there was the Military College for the Artillery there has me re-thining along those lines again.

I now have the marriage of Helen ANGUS and John GRIEVE - on the Sabbath 7/7/1776 which pre-dates where I am at presently.   Coincidence that my Lewis marr.  7/7/1799 - must be something about 7th July 

If all else fails I hope to retire in about 5 yrs so a good excuse for a holiday in the UK !

[Valda]

Hi

The Royal Military Academy at Woolwich was established in 1741 to train commissioned officers for the Royal Artillery, Engineers, and later the Royal Corps of Signals.

The history of the academy is at the Royal Engineers Museum website

http://www.remuseum.org.uk/articles/rem_article_academy.htm

I believe the records are held in series WO149 (1764-1939) at the Royal Military Academy at Sandhurst (you can email the curator)

http://www.army.mod.uk/training_education/training/17885.aspx


British Officers' Commissions

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/RdLeaflet.asp?sLeafletID=144


British Army: Officers' Records 1660-1913 (artillery and engineers came under the Board of Odnance until 1855 not the War Office)

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/RdLeaflet.asp?sLeafletID=13



Regards

Valda