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William T Jones born Cwmtwich completed
« on: Sunday 23 May 10 09:29 BST (UK) »
I an trying to find information on William T Jones born 1882 at Cwmtwich, Glamorganshireshire. On the 1911 census he is married to Margaret and living with children Mary Jane and Arthur at Margaret's parents home John and Anna James at Banwen Place, Lower Brynamman, Pontardawe, Glamorganshire. His occupation is Furnace-man.
I have so far been unable to find him on the 1891 and 1901 Census.
Any help would be very much appreciated as I am having so much trouble with this family.

Pauline

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Re: William T Jones born Cwmtwich
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 23 May 10 10:18 BST (UK) »
think you will need their marriage cert to be sure.
William Jones march qtr 1906 Pontardawe vol 11a pg 1140 with Margaret James on the same page

The only William I can see with Cwmtwrch as his place of birth in 1901 is this one. The occupations have been written over making them hard to decipher.

Glyn?andy Road, Caegurwen, Llanguick RG13/5065 folio 38 pg 12
Thomas Jones head mar 42 tin mill fillerman b. Ystalyfera
Mary J wife 43 b. Dowlais
John son 23 tin mill furnaceman b. Ystalyfera
William son 19 tin mill ? b. Cwmtwrch
Caleb son 17 coal hewer b. Cwmtwrch
Gwenllian dau 15 dressmaker b. Cwmtwrch
David R son 12 b. Cwmtwrch
Lewis P son 9 b. Brynamman
Handel son 7 b. Brynamman
Arthur son 3 b. Brynamman
Mary dau 9 months b. Brynamman
Benjamin boarder 21 coal hewer b. Merthyr Tydfil
Hywel boarder 19 coal hewer b. Merthyr Tydfil
Sarah J boarder 12 b. Merthyr Tydfil
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: William T Jones born Cwmtwich
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 23 May 10 10:47 BST (UK) »
1891 the family are at 53 park St, Caegurwen RG12/4468 folio 120 pg 14
Place of birth for all the children is Ystalyfera, so may out them out of the running. Marriage cert is definitely the way to go.

If (and it's a big if) this is the correct Jones family, your best bet for a birth cert for one of the children would look to be
David Richard Jones sept qtr 1888 Pontardawe vol 11a pg 727
Richard as middle name is confirmed by the 1891 census. Too many Williams registered to begin to guess which one might be him and no William Ts unless his age in 1911 isn't accurate.

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Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: William T Jones born Cwmtwich
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 23 May 10 22:05 BST (UK) »
Thanks Osprey that is fabulous. That must be my William Jones in the 1901 census as I have just found that  Margaret James and family were living a few doors away on Page 10 at Banwen Place.

Many thanks once again for your help.

Pauline


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Re: William T Jones born Cwmtwich
« Reply #4 on: Monday 24 May 10 09:53 BST (UK) »
I wouldn't judge correctness on proximity in a census, there's many a William Jones in the area. You need to buy the marriage cert to be sure.

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Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: William T Jones born Cwmtwich
« Reply #5 on: Monday 24 May 10 10:31 BST (UK) »
Thanks Osprey I will do that.

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Re: William T Jones born Cwmtwich
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 08 June 10 05:55 BST (UK) »
Just an update after receiving the marriage certificate and that is the man I was looking for.

Many thanks once again.

Pauline

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Re: William T Jones born Cwmtwich
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 10 June 10 09:25 BST (UK) »
Excellent! Do you want me to follow the family back through census entries?
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: William T Jones born Cwmtwich
« Reply #8 on: Friday 11 June 10 04:38 BST (UK) »
Hi osprey,

Just found your message. I could not find this family on the earlier census. Maybe you will have better luck. Would appreciate it if you could look please.

Pauline