Royce Family Mariners

[keith110639]

I have a John Royce of Spalding Master Mariner in the 1830's & also a Peter Royce Master Mariner. I have a lot of Royce's at later dates, marriages etc but would like to know who are the children of these two and were they related? Any help would be appreciated.

[amber39]

There is a John Royce b.1812  Spalding whose is living in Everton in 1871   occupation Storekeeper.

Winifred  age 53  born Wales  wife
Martha  age24  born   Liverpool
Jane  age 22    born   Liverpool
John  age 19    Coppersmith    born Liverpool              William  age 17 Engine fitter  born Windermere  Westmorland
Richard  age 13   born  Windermere
Winifred   age 11  born Windermere

Ref.  R910 / 3811 /12 /20

I dont  know if this is the John you are inquiring about.


Regards   Amber39

[keith110639]

Thanks for reply but I don't think this is the John I was looking for as he was Master of the "Unity" in June 1832, "Friendship" in Jan 1833 and Master & part owner of "Freedom" in Dec 1833. Unless he retired from the Sea and settled in Everton later which is possible as shipping was in decline at Spalding after the Railway arrived in 1848.
Regards
Keith

[trish1120]

Do you have a date of birth for him?

[keith110639]

Hi Trish,
Unfortunately not as I found both John & a Peter Royce in the Boston Ships Register. I would expect them to be around the age of 25 to 30 as Masters that would put birth date around 1808 to 1813.
Regards
Keith

[trish1120]

Hi Keith,
I will see what I can find.

1851 Census has a JOHN Royce, 52, Widower, Sailor, born Moulton Chapel, Lincs.
He is lodging in Spalding
HO107/2096/415/15

I cant find Peter.

[ivanidea]

This seems to be the same family that Amber found for 1871:

1861 census
RG09 Piece 3173 Folio 11 Page 15     
Beyond Field, Claife, Lancashire
ROYCE, John, Head, Married, 42, Mariner, born Spalding, Lincolnshire 
ROYCE, Winifred, Wife, Married, 43, Mariners Wife, born Anglesey 
ROYCE, Martha, Daughter, Unmarried, 14, Scholar, born Liverpool, Lancashire 
ROYCE, Jane, Daughter, 12, Scholar, born Liverpool, Lancashire 
ROYCE, Elisabeth, Daughter, 10 Scholar, born Liverpool, Lancashire 
ROYCE, John, Son, 9, Scholar, born Liverpool, Lancashire 
ROYCE, William, Son, 7 Scholar, born Claife, Lancashire 
ROYCE, Richard, Son, 4, born Claife. Lancashire 
ROYCE, Winifred, Daughter, 2, born Claife, Lancashire 

Ivan

[ivanidea]

The same family in 1851

1851 census
HO107  Piece 2441 Folio 76 Page 5     
Waterhead, Ambleside below Stock, Westmorland
ROYCE, John, Head, Married, 30, Mariner, born Spalding, Lincolnshire 
ROYCE, Gwynn, Wife, Married, 31, born Wales 
ROYCE, Martha, Daughter, Unmarried, 4, born Liverpool, Lancashire 
ROYCE, Jane, Daughter, Unmarried, 2, born Liverpool, Lancashire 
ROYCE, Elizabeth, Daughter, Unmarried. 6 months, born Liverpool, Lancashire 
ROYCE, Richard, Brother, Unmarried, 24, Mariner, born Spalding, Lincolnshire 

Ivan

[keith110639]

Trish,
I found John age 52 in 1851 & a death of a John in Spalding in 1856 so perhaps that was the John of my first post. Looks like he did not marry or have a family.
Ivanidea,
The 1852 & 1861 census is interesting as it does show that he is a mariner, born Spalding.
His brother Richard, Unmarried, age 24, mariner is one I have not come across before. I just wonder why they had moved to that part of the UK.

Thanks for information
Keith