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Re: Thomas Musgrave. Death help please. Pennsylvania.
« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 09 June 10 19:01 BST (UK) »
Hi Johny

Thanks for the info. I agree with you on betting Thomas is at Robinson Run.

Ben
Researching:

LONDON, Coombs, Roberts, Auber, Helsdon, Fradine, Morin, Goodacre
DORSET Coombs, Munday
NORFOLK Helsdon, Riches, Harbord, Budery
KENT Roberts, Goodacre
SUSSEX Walder, Boniface, Dinnage, Standen, Lee, Botten, Wickham, Jupp
SUFFOLK Titshall, Frost, Fairweather, Mayhew, Archer, Eade, Scarfe
DURHAM Stewart, Musgrave, Wilson, Forster
SCOTLAND Stewart in Selkirk
USA Musgrave, Saix
ESSEX Cornwell, Stock, Quilter, Lawrence, Whale, Clift
OXON Edgington, Smith, Inkpen, Snell, Batten, Brain

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Re: Thomas Musgrave. Death help please. Pennsylvania.
« Reply #19 on: Wednesday 09 June 10 19:15 BST (UK) »
Hi Ben,

If you would like copies of WW1 & 2 Drafts etc please send me a personal message with your e-mail address and I will forward copies for you. No problem.

James Sutherland was on the 1900 Census with Robert, Elizabeth Sutherland & Thomas Musgave but this is James & his wife Mary with son in 1910 Census for Smith, Washington, Pennsylvania James had been married for 2 years.

James Sutherland 22 Married 2 years. Miner in local mine.
Mary V Sutherland 22 Had 1 child and 1 survives.
James G Sutherland 1 and 1 mth old.

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Re: Thomas Musgrave. Death help please. Pennsylvania.
« Reply #20 on: Wednesday 09 June 10 19:30 BST (UK) »
Thanks both for the help. I await the response to Johnny's query to Robinson Run.

Johnny when in 1901 did that marriage take place?

This is getting exciting now into finding out more on Thomas.
Researching:

LONDON, Coombs, Roberts, Auber, Helsdon, Fradine, Morin, Goodacre
DORSET Coombs, Munday
NORFOLK Helsdon, Riches, Harbord, Budery
KENT Roberts, Goodacre
SUSSEX Walder, Boniface, Dinnage, Standen, Lee, Botten, Wickham, Jupp
SUFFOLK Titshall, Frost, Fairweather, Mayhew, Archer, Eade, Scarfe
DURHAM Stewart, Musgrave, Wilson, Forster
SCOTLAND Stewart in Selkirk
USA Musgrave, Saix
ESSEX Cornwell, Stock, Quilter, Lawrence, Whale, Clift
OXON Edgington, Smith, Inkpen, Snell, Batten, Brain

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Re: Thomas Musgrave. Death help please. Pennsylvania.
« Reply #21 on: Wednesday 09 June 10 20:55 BST (UK) »
Hello Ben,

John mentioned the WW2 draft for James Sutherland, I am not sure if you have it but these are the details if you have'nt:

Name: James Sutherland
Birth Date: 15 Dec 1888
Birth Place: Allegheny Looks like McBonald  ??
Residence: Ohio, West Virginia
Wife:- Mary Sutherland.
Employers Name:- Robert Littlehales. Elm Grove. ......
Place of Employment:- No 3 Mine. Triopdelphia. Ohio

Added: I was interrupted for almost two hours!

Great find, Dettori.

James Sutherland was born in McDonald. To clarify the draft information, because it is garbled and misspelled: James Sutherland in 1942 was living in Ohio County, West Virginia. Sounds kind of crazy. But Ohio County, West Virginia  borders Washington County, Pennsylvania. Probably only 20 miles from the City of Washington to Triadelphia, West Virginia, where James was employed as a coal miner.

Ben: The marriage between Ellen Wilson and John Saix took place March 7, 1901.

If you want to go to the website where I found the marriage, go here: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~florian/index.htm

Scroll down to find links to McDonald newspapers.

Regards,
John  :o :o :o
ENGLAND (all Yorkshire but one)
SLATER: Ovenden, Halifax, and Massachusetts
DOBSON, LONGBOTTOM: Thornton (Bradford)
DRURY: Darton, Halifax, and Massachusetts
NEVIL(LE): Wigan (Lancs.), Darton
MEGSON: Dewsbury, Ossett
GARSIDE: Woolley, West Bretton

SCOTLAND
ROBERT HENDRY: b. 1856, Who-knows-where-shire, Scotland; 1882 to US
DEMPSTER, HOUSTON: Lesmahagow, Glasgow, and Massachusetts
GALBRAITH, MEIKLE: Kirkmichael, Ayr.; Hamilton, Glasgow, and Massachusetts


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Re: Thomas Musgrave. Death help please. Pennsylvania.
« Reply #22 on: Wednesday 09 June 10 21:05 BST (UK) »
Hello John.

Hope it was a nice interruption  ;)

Hello Ben.

I am a little unsure if you have all you need on your families. Do you need the Saix Census or have you got them in 1920 and 1930 ?
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Re: Thomas Musgrave. Death help please. Pennsylvania.
« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 09 June 10 21:16 BST (UK) »
Hi Dettori: Could you post the Saix census details. Maybe I'll see something helpful.

Ben: Here is a quote about the church in McDonald whose pastor married Ellen Wilson and John Saix.

"The First United Presbyterian congregation was organized February 26. 1876. It built a frame church which was used until 1896, when the present edifice was erected at a cost of $23,000 and the old building sold to the Colored Baptist congregation. Rev. W. D. Irons is the present pastor."  (from about 1926).

If you Google "W.D. Irons", you'll find a lot about McDonald. It makes looking for these folks a little easier.

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ENGLAND (all Yorkshire but one)
SLATER: Ovenden, Halifax, and Massachusetts
DOBSON, LONGBOTTOM: Thornton (Bradford)
DRURY: Darton, Halifax, and Massachusetts
NEVIL(LE): Wigan (Lancs.), Darton
MEGSON: Dewsbury, Ossett
GARSIDE: Woolley, West Bretton

SCOTLAND
ROBERT HENDRY: b. 1856, Who-knows-where-shire, Scotland; 1882 to US
DEMPSTER, HOUSTON: Lesmahagow, Glasgow, and Massachusetts
GALBRAITH, MEIKLE: Kirkmichael, Ayr.; Hamilton, Glasgow, and Massachusetts

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Re: Thomas Musgrave. Death help please. Pennsylvania.
« Reply #24 on: Wednesday 09 June 10 21:17 BST (UK) »
Hi

I have the Saix censuses but could anyone post me the full details of Elizabeth Sutherland in the 1910 census with her daughter Mary Saix?

Ben
Researching:

LONDON, Coombs, Roberts, Auber, Helsdon, Fradine, Morin, Goodacre
DORSET Coombs, Munday
NORFOLK Helsdon, Riches, Harbord, Budery
KENT Roberts, Goodacre
SUSSEX Walder, Boniface, Dinnage, Standen, Lee, Botten, Wickham, Jupp
SUFFOLK Titshall, Frost, Fairweather, Mayhew, Archer, Eade, Scarfe
DURHAM Stewart, Musgrave, Wilson, Forster
SCOTLAND Stewart in Selkirk
USA Musgrave, Saix
ESSEX Cornwell, Stock, Quilter, Lawrence, Whale, Clift
OXON Edgington, Smith, Inkpen, Snell, Batten, Brain

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Re: Thomas Musgrave. Death help please. Pennsylvania.
« Reply #25 on: Wednesday 09 June 10 21:23 BST (UK) »
Mary was born in October 1884 according to the 1900 census meaning she married in March 1901 aged 16 and a half. A young age.
Researching:

LONDON, Coombs, Roberts, Auber, Helsdon, Fradine, Morin, Goodacre
DORSET Coombs, Munday
NORFOLK Helsdon, Riches, Harbord, Budery
KENT Roberts, Goodacre
SUSSEX Walder, Boniface, Dinnage, Standen, Lee, Botten, Wickham, Jupp
SUFFOLK Titshall, Frost, Fairweather, Mayhew, Archer, Eade, Scarfe
DURHAM Stewart, Musgrave, Wilson, Forster
SCOTLAND Stewart in Selkirk
USA Musgrave, Saix
ESSEX Cornwell, Stock, Quilter, Lawrence, Whale, Clift
OXON Edgington, Smith, Inkpen, Snell, Batten, Brain

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Re: Thomas Musgrave. Death help please. Pennsylvania.
« Reply #26 on: Wednesday 09 June 10 21:28 BST (UK) »
Hi Ben.

1910 Smith, Washington, Pennsylvania

John Saix 33 Born France. Parents Born France. Brakeman on railroad. Immigrate 1881
Mary E Saix 25
Elizabeth B Saix 6
Thelma M Saix 4
Berdina D Saix 2
Elizabeth Sutherland 57
 
 
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