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Hi

I posted this on the NZ listserv about 3 weeks ago with no luck so I thought I would try RootsChat.

I am hoping someone can help me with a birth which was suppose to have occurred in the Pukekohe area in 1915 for:

Doris Edna / Doris Rita
Growden/Read/Reade/Reade/Reid/Reynolds/Caddy/Kempthorne/Haskell

Unfortunately, all the surnames were the ones they were using/had used in previous times.  ???

I have checked the NZ Births microfiche using all these surnames but didn't find anything. I know she was born 1915 as she was listed in some court documents in 1916 as being 8months at the time.

Thanks in advance.
Yvonne
BURTON c1840 Northants, Hellidon
CHAMPION Cornwall Breage
FULTON pre 1857 Ireland (IRL) Down Belfast
GROWDEN 1851-1874  Cornwall Roche
HASKELL 1853+ Middlesex Hillingdon; 
HASKELL 1875+ Wairarapa
HAWKE pre 1851 Cornwall Roche
INGRAM 1700-1850 Wiltshire
KEMPTHORNE 1806-1864 Cornwall Newlyn East
PARSLEY/PARSLOE c1820 Wilts,
POPE Cornwall, Germ;
READ 1750-1875 Wiltshire Salisbury
STONEHAM Wiltshire Malmesbury
TIPPET Cornwall,
WILLIAMS 1850+ Cornwal

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Re: Pukekohe births - Growden/Read (& variants)/Haskell/Reynolds - help please
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 06 June 10 10:35 BST (UK) »
Hi Yvonne,

I will try and get to the Pukekohe NZSG Branch later in the week and do some digging, not sure what records they hold now, as they no longer have rooms, and share with the library. 

In the meantime someone else might be able to find something for you.


Cheers
KHP :)
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Re: Pukekohe births - Growden/Read (& variants)/Haskell/Reynolds - help please
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 09 June 10 04:08 BST (UK) »
Hi Yvonne,

No birth records are held at Pukekohe,  only the Birth Microfiche.    Unfortunately with the 100 year rule the birth can't be checked on line.  Have you looked two/three years after  the birth year?   Some births were never registered.

What evidence have you that she was supposed to have been born in the Pukekohe area.?

Was the court case to do with an adoption or divorce.?     We just need a bit more information to be able to help you locating the birth.

Cheers
KHP




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Re: Pukekohe births - Growden/Read (& variants)/Haskell/Reynolds - help please
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 09 June 10 04:29 BST (UK) »
Hi Yvonne,

What name was used for Doris in the 1916 court documents?,

Cheers Janette


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Re: Pukekohe births - Growden/Read (& variants)/Haskell/Reynolds - help please
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 09 June 10 06:04 BST (UK) »
I assume she is deceased.  What name did she died under or what name did she marry under

Maybe this will help us to find her birth

Newbe
Purcell, - Limerick - Ireland,Australia, Westland, NZ
Coppell  - England 1734 to now, New Zealand - 1853 to now
Buckby - England, Australia, New Zealand - 1630 to now
Smith New Zealand
Parker -England - New Zealand  - 1800 to now
Lilley,Lillie, Lilly  - England -New Zealand - 1800 to now
Dykins - Wales, England, New Zealand -  1752 to now
Reynolds, England- 1800 to now
Newdick -Norfolk and Suffolk England , Australia, New Zealand - 1700 to now

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Re: Pukekohe births - Growden/Read (& variants)/Haskell/Reynolds - help please
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 09 June 10 08:31 BST (UK) »
The place and year of birth came from her daughter and this was information that her mother gave her. My evidence is from information from National Archives, Auckland, namely the Auckland Industrial School Records, Mt Albert where they list the five Growden children, date of admittance 8 July 1916; they mention the children living with the mother Maud Growden of Papakura before admission into the Industrial School. Maud's circumstances are considered "poor and destitute". The father Ernest Edward Haskell alias Ernest Edward Reade, character bad, basically he was up before the Court for deserting Maud and children leaving them totally unprovided for. At the insistence of the Charitable Aid Board the four eldest, boys, were sent to the Mt Albert Industrial School and later 'fostered' out. The surname of Growden was to be adopted by the children. Doris Reta (sp?) Growden was only mentioned once in the documents as eight months old and sister to the boys.

On 14 July 1923, Ernest, Maud and Doris left NZ bound for Melbourne on board the SS Moeraki. They travelled under the surname of Reynolds, Ernest adopting the name William Edward Reynolds, one of the names he continued to use in NSW and Victoria. As far as we are aware they never returned to NZ although a couple of the sons did go over to visit.

Doris married and died in Australia.

This is the 'shortened' version of the story.  ::)

Regards
Yvonne


Hi Yvonne,

No birth records are held at Pukekohe,  only the Birth Microfiche.    Unfortunately with the 100 year rule the birth can't be checked on line.  Have you looked two/three years after  the birth year?   Some births were never registered.

What evidence have you that she was supposed to have been born in the Pukekohe area.?

Was the court case to do with an adoption or divorce.?     We just need a bit more information to be able to help you locating the birth.

Cheers
KHP





BURTON c1840 Northants, Hellidon
CHAMPION Cornwall Breage
FULTON pre 1857 Ireland (IRL) Down Belfast
GROWDEN 1851-1874  Cornwall Roche
HASKELL 1853+ Middlesex Hillingdon; 
HASKELL 1875+ Wairarapa
HAWKE pre 1851 Cornwall Roche
INGRAM 1700-1850 Wiltshire
KEMPTHORNE 1806-1864 Cornwall Newlyn East
PARSLEY/PARSLOE c1820 Wilts,
POPE Cornwall, Germ;
READ 1750-1875 Wiltshire Salisbury
STONEHAM Wiltshire Malmesbury
TIPPET Cornwall,
WILLIAMS 1850+ Cornwal

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Re: Pukekohe births - Growden/Read (& variants)/Haskell/Reynolds - help please
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 09 June 10 08:46 BST (UK) »
Wonder if it is worthwhile checking with the Papakura Branch since that is where the mother was living ......  I do have a look up for another RCer  at Papakura......   I can maybe look for you in a couple of weeks .... if you don't mind waiting.



Cheers
KHP
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Re: Pukekohe births - Growden/Read (& variants)/Haskell/Reynolds - help please
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 09 June 10 08:53 BST (UK) »
That would be brilliant thank you.

I'm about to go back and double check the births for 1916, particularly the ones that were registered in first quarter, I've even been looking at the ones with unamed surnames just in case.

Cheers
Yvonne :)
BURTON c1840 Northants, Hellidon
CHAMPION Cornwall Breage
FULTON pre 1857 Ireland (IRL) Down Belfast
GROWDEN 1851-1874  Cornwall Roche
HASKELL 1853+ Middlesex Hillingdon; 
HASKELL 1875+ Wairarapa
HAWKE pre 1851 Cornwall Roche
INGRAM 1700-1850 Wiltshire
KEMPTHORNE 1806-1864 Cornwall Newlyn East
PARSLEY/PARSLOE c1820 Wilts,
POPE Cornwall, Germ;
READ 1750-1875 Wiltshire Salisbury
STONEHAM Wiltshire Malmesbury
TIPPET Cornwall,
WILLIAMS 1850+ Cornwal

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Re: Pukekohe births - Growden/Read (& variants)/Haskell/Reynolds - help please
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 19 June 10 04:21 BST (UK) »
Hi Yvonne,

The only birth I found was for Raymond and that was registered 12 September 1911, I did note that his birth was Pukekohe.  Checked the births for 1916 and 1917 nothing jumped out at me.   I will keep this in my list of things to do book, and when next up again (don't know when) will have another search, when I am not pushed for time.

Papakura Museum usually holds a bit more than the Society, wonder if it is worthwhile to see what records they hold.

http://www.papakuramuseum.org.nz/contactdetails.html

I have the email addy if you don't want to snail mail.

Gosh what a life Maud had and young with it :(


Cheers
KHP
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