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Chester 1899
« on: Sunday 06 June 10 14:55 BST (UK) »
Which county was Chester in, in 1899 please?

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Re: Chester 1899
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 06 June 10 15:22 BST (UK) »
MCHUGH {mayo/manchester}   OHora,MCHALE{mayo/manchester /chicago}  KENNY{Manchester}   TIMPERLEY{wilmslow-bollin fee,Manchester} SMITH{manchester}  LEE{Colne,manchester,Cheshire} VENABLES {Styal.Cheshire} PAYTON {Staffs/Manchester}McCARTHY{TIPPERARY/MANCHESTER}  EAMES/AMS/HEAMES/HAMES/AYMES {Wilmslow/Manchester} Eames/Aymes  {Ireland/Manchester/Cheshire
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Re: Chester 1899
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 06 June 10 15:34 BST (UK) »
Chester = county town (city) of Cheshire
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Re: Chester 1899
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 06 June 10 15:36 BST (UK) »
Just to add that Chester is and always has been in the county of Cheshire.  :)
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chester
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Re: Chester 1899
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 06 June 10 17:31 BST (UK) »
Although as the GENUKI page points out, Chester was a County Borough from 1889, and thus in an administrative sense became separate from Cheshire. (Even though the County Hall for Cheshire remained in Chester!)

Something similar can be seen in parish registers when entries may be headed by (e.g.) "County of Bristol" instead of "County of Gloucester". However, since the official "County of" form of Cheshire's name is "County of Chester", there wouldn't be any visible difference in Chester's case.

In ceremonial terms, it would still be regarded as being in Cheshire. (If you want to know what that means, ask who would greet Queen Victoria on her visits? - answer, the Lord Lieutenant of Cheshire, no doubt with the Lord Mayor breathing down his neck).

The relic of the administrative separation seems to linger even today with the unitary authority's name of "Cheshire West and Chester". I do tend to think, "Where else would Chester be, other than in Cheshire West?" but presumably someone wanted to emphasise that Chester was a bit different!

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Re: Chester 1899
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 06 June 10 18:45 BST (UK) »
See http://www.gazetteer.co.uk/section4.htm 4.3.3 The administrative counties and county boroughs

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Re: Chester 1899
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 06 June 10 19:10 BST (UK) »
Chester is always in the County of Cheshire ( Chester + shire)
Because the names and areas of the historic Counties stay fixed throughout the frequent changes to those of local government units they provide a fixed and widely understood geographical reference frame. http://www.abcounties.co.uk/FAQ.htm#question1
The ancient county boundaries do not alter, except for places affected by the Counties  (Detached Parts) Act 1844. By this Act many detached parts of Counties were deemed "for all purposes" to be part of the County in which they were locally situated.
In 1974 Warrington was included in Cheshire for administrative purposes,  but it is still in the historic county of Lancashire.

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Re: Chester 1899
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 06 June 10 21:13 BST (UK) »
Thank you all for your replies. I ask because I have a g.grandmother who was married (1889) in the Parish of St Mary's and living in Handbridge. It has been a devil of a job to track her down. They also lived in Hawarden and parts of Liverpool. Was Handbridge ever in Flintshire?

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Re: Chester 1899
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 06 June 10 23:00 BST (UK) »
Handbridge was never in Flintshire, the Welsh border is between Lache and Saltney

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