1612 half charges COMPLETED

[grantleydawn]

And while I am asking for help, what could this word be, for her having use of the house & land?

honestly buried Itm I will that my sayd Executr shall
beare halfe the charges of the L...tyme for my house
& Land For Itm I will yt my sayd executr put in sufficient

Grantley

[apwright]

Perhaps the 'tyme' part could be 'fyne'?
Can't read the first bit, though. Is that definitely an L ?

Adrian

[Skoosh]

Grantley, how about lifetime.    Skoosh.

[grantleydawn]

Thankyou Adrian & Swoosh,

Attached is a comparison of “tyme & tymes” to the word which now looks like “Lo.tyne” or “Lo.fyne”

[Roger in Sussex]

Grantley,

I think that the word after "land" is "Item" again, as in two lines above, so perhaps this is the start of a new item?

It certainly looks  like "fyne" in your new image. Is it possible that his property is copyhold? It was not unusual in manors for a fine to be charged to a tenant on succeeding his father - perhaps said father had been able to put some money by to help out his son? Just a guess, and if right perhaps there was a term for such a fine? I've never come across such a term though I've seen (a very few) court rolls.

Just suggestions  Probably someone knows better and can advise?

Roger

[grantleydawn]

Hi Roger,

Yes, the "For" should have been "Itm". Just another woops, thankyou.

I am most certain that the house & land would have been under copyhold.

I will explore your concept of a "fine" and see where it takes me. The wording seems like it is a "one time" charge as opposed to an annual charge.

Regards
Grantley

[Roger in Sussex]

Grantley,

You may find the attached extract from an 1897 dictionary giving some of the relevant definitions of "fine" some help.

Alas, no clue as to what the mystery word might be.

Roger

[grantleydawn]

Thankyou Roger,

I made contact with an English Lawyer who specialises in Wills & Land Transfers (I think).

He said;
"under the old feudal systems which may have still existed in out of the way places then, on transfer of a property a 'fine' had to be paid to the Lord of the Manor. A manorial court ratified the transfer on payment of the fine.
But I am afraid that is all I know. The 'Lo' bit could be anything, could be some local expression or a technical one I don't know. Lawyers here don't get taught that stuff these days!"

As a guess the third letter looks like the start of the letter "r", chopped off. With a bit of imagination, I could make it Lorfyne or "Lord's fine"

That's good enough for me.

Regards
Grantley