my grandfather and his drinking pals outside the Tai Fry Inn Colwyn Wales

[paintedlady]

I attach a photo of my grandfather which was taken in 1939 on which he appears to be outside a pub somewhere perhaps in Colwyn Bay as he lived there most of his life.  On the back the words  Ty-Fry, Kinmel Park are written and i wonder if anyone knows exactly this place was? Grandfather is holding up a beer bottle and has a flat cap which appears to be too large for him!

[Morganllan]

paintedlady

Kinmel Park (training camp) is at Bodelwyddan; there is a Ty Fry pub there mentioned on this site:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/wales/northeast/sites/askalocal/pages/wwii17.shtml



Morgan

[paintedlady]

Thank you i am very grateful for your assistance.  I looked on the website and the pub is still there!!  Grandfather was in the 2nd World War and maybe he was visiting his old enlistment camp? I intend to find this Inn and go inside for a drink so i can walk in his footsteps.  I did notice there is a business for sale sign outside - hope it doesnt shut before i can get there!!!

Sue

[Gadget]

 

I recognise the photo!

glad you found the pub - should we all meet up there one day


Gadget

[cae howell]

You can see the pub on Googlemap as their camera car has been past the pub looking at the photo the area has been built up looks a very nice pub

[TyFryInn]

Hi Painted Lady and Gadget

I am now Landlady of the Ty Fry Inn in Bodelwyddan, North Wales.  Please could you both be kind enough to let me know the name of your grandfather (painted lady) and if gadget could let me know how they recognise the photo.  I would love to know who they are and if I could print a copy of the photograph and display same in the pub.  I have got information from one of our locals stating that in 1881  the Ty Fry Inn was occupied by Robert Owen, aged 25, a farm labourer, his wife Jane, also 25 a beer keeper and their two children; Elias aged 3 and Robert aged 1 also resident was Anne Perry aged 13 a general servant.

Any other information known about The Ty Fry Inn would be much appreciated as we would like to get the history up and displayed on the premises.  In the photograph painted lady has posted the same wall and corner of the house are still standing!

[Gadget]

Hi TyFryInn and Welcome to Rootschat

Gadget doesn't post very much on the site these days  but I think she recognised it because she restored it on this link:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,460421.msg3212590.html#msg3212590

PaintedLady would have to give her permission for you to use them as she would have the copyright.


gnu

[taidgazacaz]

In 1861, Ty Fry was a farm of 60 acres. Head John Jones, 59, with wife  Grace, 55 & children Edward 25, Martha 19, Morris 17, Elias 15.
Reference RG9/4295.

One of my very close relatives is descended from Elias.

[despair]

To complete the census line up(main couple only)
1841 John and Grace Jones  HO107 1412 6/2 10
1851 John and Grace Jones  HO107 2506 242 15
1861 John and Grace Jones  RG09 4295 70 28
1871 John and Susannah Prichard  RG10 5669 13 15
1881 Robert and Jane Owen           RG 11 5529 40 7
1891 William and Margaret Davies   RG12 4627 94 8
1901 William and Margaret Davies  RG13 5234 111 6
1911 George and Harriet Macrae   RG14 34117 RG78 PN1971 RD623 SD1 ED1 SN22

Early occupants are described solely as farmers-first obvious public house reference(on the database I use) is Jane Owen in 1881"beer house keeper".
William Davies is described as "farmer and publican" in 1901 and George Macrae is described as "horsebreaker and publican"

I couldn't find references as inn/tavern/public house etc in the historical directories until late in the century.

One thing I did come across in 1851/1861(haven't pursued other dates) is a reference to the "Bodelwyddan Arms".
Both references David and Ann Williams
1851 HO107 2507 33 26
1861 RG09 4299 17 3

Roger