Crawford

[RJ_Paton]

Without further details to confirm anything found it is unfortunately extremely difficult to go any further.

Although Lanarkshire and Renfrewshire are adjacent counties and in Australian terms the distances between Lanark and Eastwood are small  it was not common for couples to be from such different areas although it did happen . In addition  Crawford is a relatively common surname and records of that period aren't always very helpful in proving links with either siblings or indeed parents.

[AMBLY]

Hi

The passenger list for the Macedon 1849 is the "Lanark" link....

http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/australia/macedon1849.htm

John CRAWFORD 32, Shepherd, Birthplace: Lanark, B Index 339/3
Jane (Taylor) 30
George 6

where maiden name of wife is indicated, it has been included in the given name column within ( )
(the B-index column indicates individuals who may be found in that index, with corresponding reference number for further research)

On looking at the list as a whole, it would appear "Lanark" probably means "Lanarkshire"; there are a lot of passengers born "Lanark"

It may be worthwhile following up the B-Index angle? It sounds as if he may have been an Assisted Immigrant?

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/sct/RFW/Eastwood/index.html
EASTWOOD, parish, containing Pollockshaws And Thornliebank towns and Shawlands village, on border of Renfrewshire, near south-west side of Glasgow

Eastwood was a parish in Lanarkshire and Renfrewshire between 1892 until 1975. Before 1892 it was in Renfrewshire.
http://www.visionofbritain.org.uk/relationships.jsp?u_id=10141655&c_id=10107260
http://www.scotlandsplaces.gov.uk/

Cheers
AMBLY

[RJ_Paton]

If you go to http://www.maproom.co.uk/maps/brit/scotland.jpg you can see a map of the counties as they were in 1886 which would have been very similar to the 1840 era.

[ashleighn19]

Hi guys,

I am getting hold of John's grave picture today/early next week, so I should be able to find some definate dates there, but in the meantime I was searching on familysearch and i found 4 John Crawfords born in Lanark about 1817 that may be him, is there any way of working out which one is him?

there is:

John Crawford b. 4th Nov 1816 in Barony to parents William + Elisabeth
John Crawford b. 8th June 1816 in Govan to parents David + Elizabeth Wardrop
John Crawford b. 7th Aug 1816 in Govan to parents John + Margaret Porter
John Crawford b. 12th Oct 1815 in Govan to parents Stephen + Agans Lochead

any suggestions appreciated.

also, Ambly, what do you mean the B index angle?

ash

[RJ_Paton]

Hi guys,

I am getting hold of John's grave picture today/early next week, so I should be able to find some definate dates there, but in the meantime I was searching on familysearch and i found 4 John Crawfords born in Lanark about 1817 that may be him, is there any way of working out which one is him?

there is:

John Crawford b. 4th Nov 1816 in Barony to parents William + Elisabeth
John Crawford b. 8th June 1816 in Govan to parents David + Elizabeth Wardrop
John Crawford b. 7th Aug 1816 in Govan to parents John + Margaret Porter
John Crawford b. 12th Oct 1815 in Govan to parents Stephen + Agans Lochead

any suggestions appreciated.

also, Ambly, what do you mean the B index angle?

ash

Sadly at the moment there is no way to confirm any of these as your John - normally if they had followed the naming pattern and presuming that George was their first born son George would have been John's fathers name.

[ashleighn19]

Hi there,

I got a picture of John and Janet's grave the other day, and sadly it gives very little information.

it reads simply:

IN MEMORY OF:
CRAWFORD

Janet, Died 1. 1. 1891
Aged 71 years

John, Died 20. 5. 1892
Aged 77 years.


So without actually giving birth dates we know that John was born somewhere between June 1814 and May 1815, which means none of the ones i found on familysearch.

There are also no other Johns around that time. Any ideas where else I could look?

Ash

[Rodeo]

Hi Ashleigh

Perhaps you should have another look at the 1841 census I cited, which you immediately dismissed. What makes you so certain they aren't your Crawfords? You now know, from the graves,  that the dates fit (as well as the names and John's occupation). Ages were often rounded in the 1841 census.

If they followed the Scottish naming pattern, John Crawford's father was named John and Janet's (Jean's) mother was called Mary.

Cheers,

Rodeo

[ashleighn19]

Hey Rodeo,

I thought that the John Crawford you pointed out was not the right one as I know that my John died in Riverton SA and not Casino. Also John and Janet as far as I know only had one child, George. Unless the Mary mentioned on the census died before they immigrated to Australia?

Are you sure that theJohn you mentioned died in Casino?

[Rodeo]

Hi Ashleigh

I merely asked if your John Crawford died in Casino in connection with an immigration record I found on Ancestry -- no relation whatsoever to the 1841 census entry.

If John and Janet were married in 1838, it's highly possible that they had children before George (whom you say was born in 1843).

Did you obtain their death certificates from Victoria BMD online?

Cheers,

Rodeo