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Harvard Family!!
« on: Sunday 04 July 10 19:22 BST (UK) »

Hi
Im now researching the Harvard family after buying a picture frame containing a photo of John Harvard 1819-1888!!!

So far i have...

John Harvard (1819-1888) *Wesleyan Minister
Father: John Harvard (1792-1862) = Eliz. Hussey
Father: John Harvard (1761-1843) = Mary Ann Otley (1769-1849)

Can any one fill in brothers, sisters and further back than this ...or further forward ?

I have an assumption that somehow he is related to John Harvard of US university fame?!?!? Can anyone get me back THAT far??

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Re: Harvard Family!!
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 04 July 10 19:41 BST (UK) »
This book won't necessarily get you back, but it might give you an idea of those from whom your man should descend in order to be related.

"John Harvard and his ancestry" by Waters, Henry F. (Henry Fitzgilbert), 1833-1913

It's available for free download from the internet archive site.

http://www.archive.org/details/johnharvardhisan01wate

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Re: Harvard Family!!
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 04 July 10 19:43 BST (UK) »
Is John Harvard connected to your family tree or are you just researching him because of the picture frame?

Does the photo confirm he was a Wesleyan Minister or did you get that info from a census entry

Where did the info re: parents & grandparents etc come from and does all info given relate to Sussex

Have you done a parent search on the IGI for siblings?

PARENT SEARCH ON IGI

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Input fathers name and surname and  mothers christian name  

REGION – select British Isles from the menu

COUNTRY – select one or “All countries”

COUNTY (will appear when you select COUNTRY)  – select whichever matches what you know about the family

Click SEARCH

 
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Re: Harvard Family!!
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 04 July 10 19:46 BST (UK) »
The 1881 census shows him b 1820 Pimlico and living in Ealing so where is the Sussex connection?

Wife was Sarah b Leeds

JOHN HARVARD   Christening:  23 JUL 1820   Saint Clement Danes, Westminster, London, 
Father:  JOHN HARVARD   Mother:  ELIZABETH 
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Re: Harvard Family!!
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 04 July 10 19:57 BST (UK) »
CAROLEW....

Othar than 2 of kids born in Sussex there INST a connection....i wanted to post this in General lookups but there doesnt appear to be a general lookups....

Yes, Researching cause of picture frame...

Yes, Frame confirms birth and death...and theres only 1 on 1851/61/71 & 81 census matches and HE IS a wes. min......

Info re parents/grandparents is from forum (genforum)....

No, Parent search on IGI....brings up harvards ranging from 1621 - 1856...so not much help




Thought someone on here might have researched them already......

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Re: Harvard Family!!
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 04 July 10 20:17 BST (UK) »
Would it be better on the surname interests board possibly?

If not - London & Middlesex would seem to be a better option
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Re: Harvard Family!!
« Reply #6 on: Monday 05 July 10 09:04 BST (UK) »
It all looks to be outside Sussex for John died in Lewisham in the June quarter of 1888 (ref 1d 586). 
You can apply for a copy of his death cert from the GRO giving the above reference.

1881 census has him as born Pimlico, London,
 wife from Leeds and children born Bristol & Southport, but no Sussex conection.
1858 he was in Leeds to marry Sarah Mawson,
1820 he was baptised in Westminster. 
Siblings 1815 - 1835 Henry, Eliza, John Hussey, William, Thomas & Mary also baptised Wesminster (IGI Batch Number: C041601)

No trace of the Harvard-Hussey marriage but a Hussey enclave is known to have existed in the Basingstoke area of HAMPSHIRE.

1789 marriage to Mary Otley in Brixton, & baptism Shoreditch 1788 (IGI).
Sister Mary Ann born Bristol 1797.   (IGI references are unsubstatiated so you need to verify that Bristol has not been mistranscribed as Brixton or vice vesa)

You also need to see a copy of the above marriage entry to see if it gives John's parents as John & Lydia or James & Jane, for there are two London baptisms (1758 & 1763) and either of them could be him

Perhaps that might put a bit of meat on the bones of what you have already and if there does turn out to be a family link to the John Harvard who started the American University of that name, the Sussex connection will probably be that on April 19 1636 John married Ann Sadler (b. 1614) at South Malling.  Ann was the sister of the Reverend John Sadler, Vicar of Ringmer. 

By the way, the same university document that the above information came from suggests that John Harvard's London based parents and most of his siblings were wiped out in a London Plague of 1625, and his last surviving brother died in 1637, leaving John to inherit the entire Harvard estate.  However, unless 1625 marked a lesser plague, I had always understood the great plague to have been about 4 decades later in 1665!

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Re: Harvard Family!!
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 25 August 12 03:55 BST (UK) »
I am a descendant of Sarah Mawson of Leeds who married into the Harvard family I would love a copy of the photo of John Harvard if that is possible please or any information of them,Thank you
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Re: Harvard Family!!
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 25 August 12 15:29 BST (UK) »
 :Dear Jackski
Thank you I WOULD APPRECIATE A copy of John Harvard photo
green2w I am not sure how to send my email without going public can you help please.