Barton upon Irwell - Which local office for certificates?

[KitCarson]

In the 1911 E&W Census, my great grandparents, James and Mary Carson, state that they have had 6 children and only 3 of them are still living.  They did have to move around quite a bit between 1886-1911 to find work (Liverpool, Widnes, Chorlton, Burton on Trent, St Helens that I know of).  I have found William (1898-1901 Burton on Trent) and have another possible Ellen 1886 (L/pool)-1890 (Prescot) which I will follow up.

I've found entries on FBMD for Patrick Joseph Carson in Barton Upon Irwell which are interesting:
Birth Q2 1905 8c 685
Death Q1 1906 8c 400

I'm not sure what the current wait is for certificates via the GRO so would like to try getting these 2 direct from the local office.  Can anyone offer advice?

Kit

[Barbara.H]

Hi Kit,

Trafford council is the one for Patrick Carson's birth and death - he is listed on the Lancashire BMD site, which has online forms you can print off and send to the office
http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/index.html

  Barbara

[KitCarson]

Cheers Barbara, forgot to try Lancs BMD. 

[Blue70]

I ordered a certificate from the GRO on Tuesday (6 July 2010) and it arrived today Saturday (10 July 2010) so it's probably quicker using the GRO at the moment.

C

[KitCarson]

Thanks C, really helpful to know how long applications are taking. Kit

[Blue70]

I noticed this topic because I was researching someone born in Barton Upon Irwell recently. Apparently Barton is the old name and it's now called Eccles.

C

[garstonite]

Hiya Kit....do you know James occupation and Marys maiden name?   when did they marry and what year was their first born ?
...found this on www.lan-opc.org.uk
Elizabeth Carson babtism 18th march 1891 at St John the Babtist church,Atherton ,Lancashire
father James mother Mary occupation Horse Nail Maker ?....is this your James ? or is it too early for a birth.
it states Elizabeth b 22nd June 1849 but I think that should read 1889....allan

[bettyespana]

I noticed this topic because I was researching someone born in Barton Upon Irwell recently. Apparently Barton is the old name and it's now called Eccles.

C

Further to your info,yes Barton on Irwell inc Eccles(it was already there).
However,for certs you would now need to go /send to Swinton Town Hall which comes under Salford.That is where the registry office is now based.
Eccles,Swinton,Pendlebury,Walkden,Worsley,Irlam,Cadishead all come under Salford now.Apologies for any I may have missed.

bettyespana

[KitCarson]

Hi Allan, thanks for your interest. 

Mary's maiden name was Ronan and she wass from Wexford.  She had a brief marriage in Liverpool to John Bo(w)land until he died (Dec 1892-Dec 1893).  It was only recently that I found out that a child was born of this marriage.  Lucy Boland (28/8/1883) can be found in the 1901/1911 Irish census living with the Ronan family in Ferns, Wexford. 

Mary married James Carson from Belfast (1/11/1886)  in Liverpool and the next time I see them is the 1891 census in St Helens, Lancs.  They have 1yr old Robert.  I've only now started the search for the 2 children I didn't know about.

I'm excited about sending off for the 2 certificates.  If they are correct, I'll send off for their death certs.

bettyespana - thanks for the update on where I can get certificates locally.

Kit