Author Topic: Thomas Wenham of Hailsham/New York 1660-1709  (Read 3008 times)

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Thomas Wenham of Hailsham/New York 1660-1709
« on: Thursday 15 July 10 18:58 BST (UK) »
Could you help please?    I am trying to find the details that  may shed some light into the conjecture that he perhaps married twice.

He is known to have married Mary Alford of Broadwater Sussex UK in 1693 and  had at least 3 children, John, Sarah and Edward but I am not sure if they were born in England or New York. 

Reference has also been made to a wife called Mary Burroughs.

The New York Census for 1703 show that he was living in Dock Ward with a wife, 2 children, boy and girl, under 16 and 3 slaves!   

Thomas' Will was allegedly proved on 9 October 1709 by the then Deputy Governor of New York, Richard Ingoldesby.

Thomas had an interesting career, captain, merchant, warden of Trinity Church NY, commissioner of customs for the Receiver General and appointed Third Justice of the Supreme Court of New York in 1704. 

He is also connected with land purchases in America named the Little Nine Partners Patent, the Oriskany Patent and the Oneida Patent. 

I understood that his estate was left to his natural son, John Wenham of Beckenham, Kent whose son the Rev. John Wenham of Hamsey sold his interests in the Oriskany Patent to Governor (?) Clinton.    Another report, however suggests that he died childless and his Estate went to his two sisters, one of whom married a Mr Smith and their son was Rev. George Wenham Smith, details of whom have eluded me!

Any further info would be gratefully received.

Many thanks.

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Re: Thomas Wenham of Hailsham/New York 1660-1709
« Reply #1 on: Friday 16 July 10 02:58 BST (UK) »
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Re: Thomas Wenham of Hailsham/New York 1660-1709
« Reply #2 on: Friday 16 July 10 13:15 BST (UK) »
Thank you.  Any info would be gratefully received.

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Re: Thomas Wenham of Hailsham/New York 1660-1709
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 24 July 10 20:39 BST (UK) »
I believe Thomas Wenham may have been buried in Trinity Church New York in 1709.   How can I research this please?

Also, I believe his children, John, Sarah and Edward, born between the years 1695-1704, may have been born in New York.   What US records are available for me to research this please?

Any help would be welcome.

Thank you.

N.B.  It may be of interest to others to know that I believe Thomas Wenham may be related to the Rev. John Wenham of Hailsham (c. 1659) whose father was John Wenham of More Hall, Ninfield, Sussex, UK.   If this is the case, then Thomas is related to the Wenhams of Wenham Hall, Little Wenham, Suffolk, UK.


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Re: Thomas Wenham of Hailsham/New York 1660-1709
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 25 July 10 00:39 BST (UK) »
Since you say "allegedly" on the will, and seem unsure of whether he had living children at the time, I refer you to this abstract of his will.

 http://www.rootschat.com/links/09ao/   

It is possible that you can get a complete copy of the will.

Since Wenham was prominent for the time,  I also suggest that you check more scholarly journals rather than genealogy sites to see what might have been written about him.  You might start with Google Scholar and a large university library.

It does appear that there were several Wenhams in early America, including another Thomas in New England.

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Re: Thomas Wenham of Hailsham/New York 1660-1709
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 25 July 10 13:17 BST (UK) »
Thank you very much. 

I was particularly pleased to be able to look up an abstract of Thomas Wenham's Will.   I have attempted to locate it on the web, but until now I had been unsuccessful.   

Thank you also for a link to some of the more specialised research books.  I have stumbled across some of them in the past, but have not always been able to access them.

In case it is of interest to any readers, details concerning Thomas Wenham 's connected families in England, UK can be found on the UK National Archives website.  The Schiffner Papers re Coombe Place, Hamsey (Administrative history) and the archive of the Baker & Kirby Families of Battle, Withyhton and of Lower and Middle House Mayfield Place and the Vicarage, Mayfield are pertinent.   Abstracts of Wills of Wenham family members can be located in these archives.

Thanks again.