1841 census Merthyr Tydfil

[Terri Overton]

Interested in the 1841 MerthyrTydfil census.

I am looking for a Thomas Rees, born approx 1838 (age 2,3,4)

and

Ann Williams, born approx 1840 (age 1,2)

I do not know anything about parent's names.  Both of these people were supposed to have been born in Merthyrl Tydfil.

Terri

[Welsh Jen]

Hello with regards to Thomas Rees, I think more information may have to be found in order to narrow the search down:

Glamorgan 1841 Census
M = Merthyr

M 24 013 060  PWLLYWHAIADD           REES THOMAS                  3M -                               YES

M 26 047 046  TAIR POUND             REES THOMAS                 1   -                               YES

M 44 025 053  MOUNTAIN               REES THOMAS                 1   -                               YES

M 63 042 006  NANT Y RWCH            REES THOMAS                 1   -                               YES

M 41 013 069  TROEDYRHIW MILL        REES THOMAS                 2   -                               YES

M 48 031 051  JOHN STREET            REES THOMAS                 3   -                               YES

M 56 044 032  YEW TREE FARM HOUSES   REES THOMAS                 3   -                               YES

M 39 005 010  TOMMY CAERPHILLY'S HSS.REES THOMAS                 4   -                               YES

M 34 034 132  TRAMROAD SIDE          REES THOMAS                 6   -                               YES

M 44 022 027  PENYRHEOL              REES THOMAS                 6   -                               YES


No doubt the same can be said for Ann Williams.

Sorry that this is of no real help to you.
Regards and best wishes Jen

[Terri Overton]

Thank you for your attempts.
Any suggestions on how to narrow down such a common name?
I have tried to search for marriage information on
Thomas Rees and Ann Williams.  I am a descendent of their daughter Maria who was born Sept 9, 1859.  I have not yet been successful in this attempt.
Maria was born on the Tram Road North of Merthyr .
Terri

[Welsh Jen]

Do you have the Glamorgan 1861 Census information for them?
I have found a match for your Maria and her parents:

Glamorgan 1861 Census, 4060 1861 CENSUS OF GARTH DISTRICT. REF.R.G.9/4060, E.D.23. Piece: 4060 Folio: 043     Schedule: 043. Address: BRECON ROAD 80         

REES THOMAS Head of Household Married age 23 Occupation Coal Miner Born Merthyr (Tydfil) GLA c1838

REES ANN Wife Married age 21 Born Merthyr (Tydfil) GLA c1840

REES MARIA Daughter Unmarried age 1 GLA  Born Merthyr (Tydfil) c1860

As no other children are listed on the Census entry I looked within the Free BMD website but found no match using both names. With just using Thomas's name & searching for a marriage around 1858-1861 I yielded these results:

Surname  First name(s)    District  Vol  Page 
Marriages Dec 1858
Rees  Thomas    Merthyr Tydfil  11a 560   
Rees  Thomas     Merthyr Tydfil  11a 482   

Marriages Jun 1859
Rees  Thomas     Merthyr T  11a 473   

Marriages Dec 1859
Rees  Thomas     Merthyr Tydfil  11a 478

It may be worth your while visiting your local records office to view the GRO marriage entries using these Quarter and years (above) as starter points, If you find an Ann Williams with the same Reference as one of the above Thomas Rees's then you have a match. As you are dealing with common surnames for the area I can only see this as a way of narrowing down  your search for your ancestors marriage. None of these may match at all, but at least you have a starting point.

If you are not in the position to visit an England or Wales records office you can also access the marriage indexes via: http://www.1837online.com/Trace2web/ as these are complete (not like the Free BMD) but this is a pay per view site and can be quite costly especially when trawling through such names are Williams and Rees.

Hope some of this helps you in your search



Jen 

[Terri Overton]

yes, I have that census.
That is where I got the approximate age of Thomas and Ann.
Terri

[NigelG]

Thomas Rees married Ann Williams 30th March 1859 at Merthyr Tydfil Registry office - this looks to be the most promising 

[Terri Overton]

WOW!
I'll give this a try!
Thank you!
Terri

[Terri Overton]

NigelG
Would that possibly be volume 11 page 473?
Terri

[NigelG]

Have sent you a PM re this