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Please help me find Charles Pannell
« on: Tuesday 27 July 10 23:28 BST (UK) »
Hi
I am trying to research my grandparents family trees forthwith golden wedding anniversary.
On my Pannell line I have discovered Charles Pannell. He married Susan in Castle Hedingham but he was of the Sible Hedingham parish. I can't did birth or death records as it is pre 1837. I believe he was born in 1813 from scraps of information I have put together. Can anyone help me find Charles and hopefully the name of his parents. This way, I can keep delving for my grandparents!
Thank you very much :-)

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Re: Please help me find Charles Pannell
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 28 July 10 00:55 BST (UK) »
Hi and welcome to Rootschat

According to the 1851 census - Charles was b Castle Hedingham 1813
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Re: Please help me find Charles Pannell
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 28 July 10 16:07 BST (UK) »
Is this the same Charles Pannell (widower) who married Sarah Ward in Castle Hedingham 1856? The ages seem to tally - if so, his father was Thomas Pannell.
Beattie~from Ireland to Scotland
Page~Fife/Stirling
Campbell~from Ireland to Scotland
Ferguson~from Ireland to Scotland
Mynott~Cambridgeshire
Kemp~Essex
Tarbin~Essex
Walters~Essex
Brewster~Essex

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Re: Please help me find Charles Pannell
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 28 July 10 19:46 BST (UK) »
I don't think so - that Charles was b Sible Hedingham per 1861 and was married to Elizabeth in 1851

1861 is mis-transcribed as PARMELE  RG9 Piece 1112 Folio 63 Page 3
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Re: Please help me find Charles Pannell
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 28 July 10 19:57 BST (UK) »
Can't seem to find Charles and Elizabeth in the 1851 - can you let me know the details please?
Thanks.
Beattie~from Ireland to Scotland
Page~Fife/Stirling
Campbell~from Ireland to Scotland
Ferguson~from Ireland to Scotland
Mynott~Cambridgeshire
Kemp~Essex
Tarbin~Essex
Walters~Essex
Brewster~Essex

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Re: Please help me find Charles Pannell
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 28 July 10 20:00 BST (UK) »
Possible deaths

Susan Pannell Sept qtr 1855  Halstead  4a 187

Charles Pannel December qtr 1857  Halstead 4a 223 OR Charles Pannel June qtr 1858 Halstead  4a  202

I think this next one is the Charles who re-married in 1856

Charles Pannell aged 52 eptember qtr 1866 Halstead  4a  241

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Re: Please help me find Charles Pannell
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 28 July 10 20:02 BST (UK) »
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Can't seem to find Charles and Elizabeth in the 1851 - can you let me know the details please?


Indexed as PAMPLIN  HO107 Piece 1784 Folio 415 Page 10
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Re: Please help me find Charles Pannell
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 28 July 10 20:25 BST (UK) »
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Indexed as PAMPLIN  HO107 Piece 1784 Folio 415 Page 10

I don't think so. Charles Pamplin, Elizabeth and family are in the 1841, 1851 and 1861 census, so this is not Charles Pannell and family.
Beattie~from Ireland to Scotland
Page~Fife/Stirling
Campbell~from Ireland to Scotland
Ferguson~from Ireland to Scotland
Mynott~Cambridgeshire
Kemp~Essex
Tarbin~Essex
Walters~Essex
Brewster~Essex

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Re: Please help me find Charles Pannell
« Reply #8 on: Monday 02 August 10 09:47 BST (UK) »
Hello Hlfuller

Welcome to rootschat  :)

A Charles Pannell married in Halstead R.D (includes Castle Hedingham) in 1845 but.....

You need to work backwards in time and logic tells me that if its your grandparents 50th wedding anniversary you are relatively young, so your great grandparents were not born anywhere near 1813 so who are your great grandparents?

1861 census
70 Guards Club, Pall Mall, St James Westminster, London, Middx
Isaac Pennell.....servant...22 (unm)...servant domestic...Castle Heddingham, Essex
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1861
Alfred Pannell aged 26 is a domestic servant at Bath, Somersetshire
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1851
Back Lane, Castle Hedingham, Halstead, Essex
Charles Pannell.......head.....38......ag lab.................Castle Hedingham, Essex
Susan........"............wife.......44............................................"
Alfred.........".............son.......17......ag lab............................"
John...........".............son.......15......ag lab............................"
Ann............".............daur......13............................................"
Isaac........."..............son.......11..........................................." (born Dec qtr 1838, Halstead R.D)
Eleanor......".............daur.......9............................................" (born Mar qtr 1842 Halstead R.D)
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1841
Back Lane, Castle Hedingham, Halstead, Essex
Susannah Pannel...35............................................Essex
Alfred.............".........8............................................Essex
John.............."..........5............................................Essex
Ann................".........3............................................Essex
Lydia Norden..........20............................................Essex
Isaac Pannel............2.............................................Essex
Julia Pannel................1.............................................Essex
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1856
a Charles Pannel married a Sarah Ward...Halstead R.D



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