MARY WARD

[ellen amanda]

HI I am trying to find the birth of my great grand mother Mary WARD she was born in 1862 .I have her marriage  certificate it stated her Father,s name was WILLIAM WARD his occupation was a Tailor Mary ward married  HENRY HOSIER in 1883 in BOOTLE LIVERPOOL. Mary died in1931 in KILKEEL  HOSPITAL Mary was buried in kilbroney . I know she lived in the back lane in  ROSTREVOR. I can not find a birth for her in ROSTREVOR OR WARRENPOINT. ANY little bit of information would be very helpfull, I have been trying to find her birth and her parents for a very long time thank you Amanda

[aghadowey]

When you say you've been trying to find her birth do you mean trying to find a baptismal record? registration of births started in 1864 and it looks like she was probably born just before that date.

[ellen amanda]

SORRY I  should have said BAPTISMAL CERTIFICATE  thank you for your reply. AMANDA

[BallyaltikilliganG]

My first hunt showed nothing for father William Ward
this was  useing a fee paying website http://www.ancestryireland.com
there are entries for births etc
WARD MARY 1862 HENRY Antrim
WARD MARY 1862 JOHN Antrim
WARD MARY 1862 HENRY Down
WARD MARY 1862 JOHN Down
WARD MARY ANNE 1862 EDWARD Antrim WARD MARY ELLENOR 1862 JOHN Antrim
 the name after the date is the fathers name,  I have no way of knowing if all of these entries are red herrings. The County name ie Antrim and Down include parts of Belfast
I will try emerald ancestors next if I have time
Good luck Jim

[ellen amanda]

HI JIM thank you for searching for me I have hit a brick wall with my great grand mothers birth. I have her marriage certificate it gave her age 21 she was married in 1883, in Bootle Liverpool her Father,s name was William his  profession Tailor.In 1884 MARY and her Husband came to live in Rostrevor to live 3 children were born in Rostrevor. In 1890 mary and the family went back to LIVERPOOL. Some time in 1920 Mary moved back to Rostrevor she died in kilkeel. HOSPITAL.I have her death certificate it reads Mary HOSIER died SEPTEMBER 12 1931. Mary was buried in kilbroney  cemetery .Mary was buried in the WARD,S family burial plot.  This is why I think mary was born some where in co down once again thank you for help me AMANDA

[Answer]

Ellen Amanda - there was a Mary Ward born (or baptised) in Warrenpoint on 16/07/1862. Father was Henry Ward and  mother Anne Byrnes(Byrne). Mary seems to have been the youngest of 6 children born to this couple. Hope this helps.

[BallyaltikilliganG]

Recheck suppose her birth was not 1862, for whatever reason, and one error is within one record  eg if she was 16 not 21, heres an interesting possible
From http://www.ancestryireland.com/
WARD MARY 1867 father WILLIAM Ward Down

Street  Directories are useful if fully indexed, some are for Belfast only etc
My hunt for William Ward tailor took me thru the census 1901 and 1911 where there are a few but wrong ages also tailoring might mean drapers and hosiers & shirt manufacturers so nearest clues
In 1861 street directory.
http://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/alphanames1861RtoY.htm
Ward, Joseph, hosier, 15 Castle Street.
In 1901 street directory http://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/alphanames1901WXYZ.htm
there is Ward & Co., drapers and hosiers & shirt manufacturers, 68, 70 Old Lodge Road
You mentioned Kilbroney that opened up the search mentioned
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rosdavies/SURNAMES
has two sections for Ward including about 100 entries for Kilbroney
Consider contacting Larry Price direct who has researched some of these  by using his email listed under interests/forum within Ros davies website
William Ward births might include one of these
Thomas WARD . Kilbroney husband of Ellen ? ; father of William bapt. 15 Apr 1840 (sponsors were John Rooney & Ann Russel) at Kilbroney Catholic Church; PR
Peter WARD . Kilbroney married Widow Anne Ward 21 Dec 1819 at Kilbroney Catholic Church; witnesses were Patrick Murphy & Francis Horan ; father of William bapt. 28 Aug 1821 (sponsors were Richard Ward & Ann Murphy) at Kilbroney Catholic Church  PR

For Hosier records in Ireland, at first sight very scarce
From http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/ there are
Name: Mary Catherine Hosier
Registration District: Kilkeel
Event Type: BIRTHS
Registration Quarter and Year: Jul - Sep 1885

Name: John Hosier
Registration District: Dundalk
Event Type: BIRTHS
Name: Hosier
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 29 Sep 1879
Birthplace: Dublin, Dublin, Ireland
Father's Name: Thomas Hosier
Mother's Name: Kate Hosier

On emeraldancestors.com There is a 1916 marriage of an Ernest Hosier in Co Londonderry   ope that moves you on 

Now that’s all I can conjure up, hoping that moves you on a bit

[BallyaltikilliganG]

From http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch
Name: James Hosier
Registration District: Kilkeel
Event Type: BIRTHS
Registration Quarter and Year: Jan - Mar 1888

Where could William Ward have been practising his Tailoring. he might get listed say under Warrenpoint /Rostrevor in a street directory
The LinenHall library and the Belfast Public library both have runs of the Belfast and Ulster directory say from 1884
good luck

[BallyaltikilliganG]

sorry made a mistake, Jim