Author Topic: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 5)  (Read 45211 times)

Offline Ruskie

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 26,199
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 5)
« on: Tuesday 03 August 10 02:30 BST (UK) »
Welcome to our continuing epic. I think we're still all having fun with this, still progressing well and with the infamous and eagerly anticipated August 9th entry in a few days, I'm sure we'll have even more to discuss.  ;D

Links to previous threads:

Part 1:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,457330.0.html

Part 2:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,459757.0.html
On page one of Part 2 is a recap of our discoveries and a timeline.

Part 3:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,464660.0.html

Part 4:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,469736.0.html

And Nathaniel's Diary:
http://www.westminster.gov.uk/services/libraries/archives/victorian-clerk/

Offline Ruskie

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 26,199
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 5)
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 03 August 10 02:35 BST (UK) »
Steven, you may have an opinion about the building on the south side of Richmond Buildings cnr Dean St - do you think it might have been one end of Richmond Buildings? It does resemble the buildings in the drawing and photo.

Offline tedscout

  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • ******
  • Posts: 2,561
    • View Profile
Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 5)
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 03 August 10 02:36 BST (UK) »
Hi Just popped in to book mark this.

I haven't had an answer from Ancestry yet, but I noticed that you can read the querie.

I am so glad Nat's grave has been found. If I wasn't so far away I would help on the restoration team.

Keep up the good work. I will get back to tracking decendents eventually.

Its Tax time here in Australia  ;D Ted
Gadsby's, Farmers, Neals - Leicestershire
Freemans, Littles, Corbetts, Branns - Australia

Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Offline deb usa

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 8,394
    • View Profile
Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 5)
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 03 August 10 02:42 BST (UK) »
Found you  ;D

okay  this is my last post from part 4 :


I have just come back from outside and was thinking of 'out of the box

John Shepard/Sheperd/Shepherd Bryceson's 2nd wife was Gertrude  (John s/o Nat b 1860)...I saw that Gertrude Bryceson remarried a guy called Mason  ( a few years after JSB died).....I know it's a long shot but maybe some of the Mason kids may have photos etc ...


deb

Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


All UK census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk


Offline deb usa

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 8,394
    • View Profile
Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 5)
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 03 August 10 03:19 BST (UK) »

For Steve; How fab ...all these knew findings especially Mongi's photo of the Bryceson gravestone!!!

deb ..off to bed ...night all  :)
Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


All UK census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Offline deb usa

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 8,394
    • View Profile
Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 5)
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 03 August 10 03:21 BST (UK) »

Its Tax time here in Australia  ;D Ted


can you deduct time/money for the worldwide search of NB?? LOL

good luck!

deb
Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


All UK census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Offline Ruskie

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 26,199
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 5)
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 03 August 10 05:02 BST (UK) »
Today Nathaniel says:

"The New Metropolitan Theatre is to be forthwith erected on a plot of ground on the east side of Leicester Square, formerly the site of Jaunay’s Hotel".

The name Jaunay originates from France. François Marie Jaunay fled the Revolution and established Jaunay's Hotel in Leicester Square London on the site of the Odeon Theatre just around the corner from St Martins In the Field.

The Odeon was built in 1937 on the site of the Alhambra Theatre, a large music hall dating from the 1850s.

The Alhambra was a popular theatre and music hall located on the east side of Leicester Square. It was built originally as The Royal Panopticon of Science and Arts opening on 18 March 1854. It was closed after two years and reopened as the Alhambra. The building was demolished in 1936.

A bit more, but no mention of The New Metropolitan or any buildings on the site as early as 1846:   :-\
The Leicester Square theatre's name was changed frequently, but usually reflected the building's (very loose) stylistic associations with the celebrated Alhambra in Granada, Spain. By 1864, the circus had become the Alhambra Music Hall. Rebuildings occurred in 1866 and 1881, by Perry and Reed. From 1871, when it obtained a licence, an equestrian ballet was performed. The Alhambra was destroyed by fire in 1882, and was rebuilt in a more restrained style by Reed, reopening in 1884 as the Alhambra Theatre. Further rebuildings were in 1888 by Edward Clark, 1892 by Clark and Pollard, 1897 by W. M. Bruton, and in 1912 by the prolific theatre architect, Frank Matcham. Other names used during the life of the theatre were the Royal Alhambra Palace; Alhambra Theatre of Varieties; Theatre Royal, Alhambra; Great United States Circus and New Alhambra Theatre.

http://www.oldlondonmaps.com/stanfordpages/westminster03b.html
About 2 streets below the red "I" is Leicester Square, and on the right side of that The Alhambra is marked.  :)


Offline Ruskie

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 26,199
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 5)
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 03 August 10 05:42 BST (UK) »
Now looking for the new baths at George Street Euston:

George Street, Euston, Marylebone ( A-Z Ref 3M 139)  - Now called North Gower Street.

Using the excellent 1846 map, top right corner is Euston Square, and the second street left of that is George Street. (near the reservoir)  :)

Offline ShaunJ

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 24,136
    • View Profile
Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 5)
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 03 August 10 07:24 BST (UK) »
This 1790's map shows Richmond Buildings as a lane with houses on both sides (left edge of the map, about half way down).

http://www.oldlondonmaps.com/horwoodpages/horwood11201.html

In London directories it has always been listed as a separate street
UK Census info. Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk