Lydia /Ann VILLIARS nee Breary

[yjv]

Is anyone able to find a marriage for Lydia or Ann BREARY to William Villiers. She died in1857 in Eynesbury and had four children. On two of their birth certificates she is named as Ann and on two other is Lydia. She is named as Lydia Villiars when she died, aged 26 in 1857 on St Marys Church Parish register for Eynesbury.  I am unable to find her birth either!  She does not seem to appear on a census for 1841 or 1851.

[lizdb]

Are any of the children bn pre 1851? If so what is name

[yjv]

No children born before 1851. Children were Edwin, Elizabeth Mary, Robert and Georgiana. Robert died in infancy.

[lizdb]

Tricky one, I cant see Lydia/Ann or William in 1851, nor a marriage

But 1861 gives a few clues. Seems they moved to Eynesbury after Edwin's birth, having started married life in Gamlingay. And William was not born a local man. I guess Lydia/Ann could have come from anywhere.
Is the surname for mothers maiden name clearly Breary on all the birth certs?
Not a name I am seeing on 1851!

Here is the 1861 to save anyone else who is searching having to look up the info

RG9 981 104 30
Eynesbury
William H Villiers 41 harnessmaker bn Staffs Burton on Trant
Lucy Franklin 24 servant housekeeper
Edwin H Villiers son 9 bn Gamlingay Cambs
Elizabeth 7 dtr bn St Neots
Georgina 4 dtr bn Eynesbury
George Franklin 1 son bn Eynesbury

I also note that Edwyn's birth reg is Oct/Nov/Dec 1851, so Lydia/Ann may have been pregnant with him at time of 1851 census (cant remember the date it was taken)

[lizdb]

What is Williams occupation on the birth cert? And does he have a middle initial on them?

The best I can see for Wm in 1851 is:
HO107 1760 581 11
Christs College, St Andrews Street
William R Villiers 22 undergraduate bn Worcs Hartlesbury

[yjv]

Thanks for your efforts! Ann or Lydia is named as Breary on 3 certificates and Brearly on the other. William's full name is William Henry and he was supposedly born in Burton on Trent. His occupation was a saddler ( parish register) or Harness maker ( census returns). I have never had any success in tracking him back further than the 1861 Census. He does not seem to appear on the 1851 census for Gamlingay. Facts about his earlier life have eluded me for some years but I live in hope! He continued to live in Eynesbury with Lucy Franklin, his partner, until his death in 1886.

[bedfordshire boy]

Interestingly, there are a number of Lydia Brealey entries on Freebmd in Burton. None of them are yours but it does show that the name was in the locality where William was allegedly from

David

[yjv]

Yes, I've seen the bmd entries but there also Brearys in Bedfordshire! So the solution is no nearer!

[ciderdrinker]

Good Morning
I know this is a really old post but a recent copy of the WDYTYA magazine had this query with William Henry Villers and Ann/Lydia Breary in it.
I got intrigued . I had a look and while I can't see anything concrete for William ,I think I've spotted Lydia.
So have you cracked it yet ? Just curious but here's what I have

So Lydia's death as you said she is born 1831 but no info on her birthplace.

There is a Lydia Brearley born 1831 at Asnby de la zouch -which is 10 miles from Burton.Burton is the nearest big town.
1841 Ancestry indexed as Burnley Ashparish Arms Yard off the Market St
Ann Brearley 70 y
Elizabeth 15 y
LYDIA 10 y
Robert 8 n
Sarah 6 y
James 3
then 2 doors down
Thomas 20 ag lab y
Elizabeth 20 y
John 2 y
Emily 3mths y

Lydia is living with her Granny Ann Brearley nee Standley who married grandad William 12.11.1794 Ashby de la Zouch. Their son William was bapt 31.12.1797 and married Elizabeth Whatnall at Chelmsford Essex 21.5.1817 .She is of there spinster and he is from A de la Zouch.
They are her parents . He starts life as a potter but becomes a Hawker travelling round selling pots.
Some of the children are still in A de la Z in 1851
Upper Church st
William Brearley 81 widow pauper hardware dealer Newhall Derbyshire
William grandson 28 ditto ADLZ
Ann 23 millner Newton le Villers his wife
William George 8mths their son ADLZ
Sarah 16 granddaughter laundress ADLZ
James 12 Bakewell Derbyshire

Lydia parents are in Dudley Worcestershire but no Lydia.So where is she?
Bond St Dudley 1851
William Brearley 53 lodger Hawker Ashby de la Zouch
Elizabeth 50 same
Henry 24 carter
Robert 18 hawker

I can track all her siblings but not Lydia.She is the right age and in the right area.
Her siblings are
Thomas 19/23.8.1818 potter ADLZ
Catherine 30.3.1821 m Pontefract 1839
William 14.2.1823 potter  wife Ann Appleton married 1845 Mnchester
Elizabeth 1825/6
Henry 26.1.1827 pot hawker
Ann 4.1.1829 married Robert Watson
Lydia born 1831 bapt ADLZ 7.8.1836 with Robert hawker
Robert 26.6.1832 Franfield bapt 8.7.1836 ADLZ
Sarah 14.1.1835 hawker of hardware
James 1838- Mar 1909born Bakewell.

Just in case it helps here ae the children of William Henry Villers and underlined  the ones with names in their mother's families
Edwin Henry 1851
Elizabeth Mary 1853
Robert 1855
Georgina 1856

Lucy Franklins
Charlotte 28.10.1857 Eaton Socon
[i]George[/i] 1860
Ann 1862
William 1864
Robert 1867
Frances 1870
Olivia 1873
Suretees 1878

Does that help ?
Have you already found all that?

Ciderdrinker