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Hugh Mackay
« on: Sunday 08 August 10 18:52 BST (UK) »
Looking for information as regards Hugh Mackay born coldbacky january 1823

to William and Ann Mackay mothers maiden name Mackay who marries in

Markinch parish Fife in 1861

  BB ???

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Re: Hugh Mackay
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 02 September 10 21:19 BST (UK) »
Hello

I've got a Hugh Mackay who married an Elizabeth Mackay, Melness. She moved down to Glasgow after he died. Her mother Marion Mackay buried in cemetery in Skinnet, believe she was married twice (to a William and a John Mackay)

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Re: Hugh Mackay
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 04 September 10 18:12 BST (UK) »
      Hi woiiftm
   
 Thank you for the e mail
 
  The Hugh Mackay i am looking for information on
  was born in Tongue around 1823

  Turns up in Fife in 1861 when he married Catherine Leitch
  They raise a family in Fife and he dies in Leslie Fife in 1888
 His age on the death certificate is around sixty four

                Blue Brazil 8)



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Re: Hugh Mackay
« Reply #3 on: Monday 27 September 10 22:33 BST (UK) »
Hi BB
Pretty sure this is HUGH MACKAY born Tongue c.1823 to WILLIAM MACKAY and his second wife ANN CLARK.
The other children were JAMES c.1826 (died bet.1891 and 1901) and MACKAYINA c.1828-1898.
The family were included in the Estate Factor's "Visitation" of the district in 1844, see No.6 Coldbackie on my website page http://cmy.iay.org.uk/resources/coldbackie.htm.
The family of GEORGE MACKAY (1791-1874) William Mackay's son  by his first wife, ANN CALDER, is described further down the page at No.3 Coldbackie.
Unfortunately, ANN CLARK is absent from the 1851 census (presumed dead) and WILLIAM MACKAY, already age 90 in 1851, presumably died before 1855 when statutory records began. There is no extant gravestone for them in the local cemetery.
BB, I see Hugh in the 1871 and 1881 census, in Fife with his wife and family. Have you managed to trace him in 1851 and 1861?
I am not related to this family; but my husband is descended from people in Scullomie, just a short walk away.
Mary Young
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Re: Hugh Mackay
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 07 October 10 17:19 BST (UK) »
Hello Mary
 Thank you for the email
 I have the entry from the OPR for 1823. The 1841 &1851 census for Coldbackie

 Unable so far to find Hugh Mackay for 1851
  1861 census unable to find Hugh in Fife.
 Found an entry for a Hugh Mackay aged 40 from Tongue. Living in Crammond Edinburgh with 5 other Mackays from Sutherland 4 from Tongue 1 from Farr

1861 23 September Markinch Parish Fife
 Hugh Mackay marries Catherine Leitch
 his age is recorded as 40
Father William Mackay weaver   Mother Ann Mackay deceased
                                                m s Mackay Is this a mistake ?
 I have the 1871 & 1881 census reports

 Hugh dies in Leslie Fife in 1888
 his son gives his age as supposed to be about 64
 
    Is it possible he was married before or in the army ?

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Re: Hugh Mackay
« Reply #5 on: Monday 18 October 10 17:59 BST (UK) »
 
 To Mary Young

  Hi Mary

 Found James Mackay died Coldbackie July 1897
 Mothers maiden name is Manson

 Mackayina gives mothers maiden name as Clark

 There is an entry in the OPR for a wedding at Coldbackie in1822
 between William Mackay and Anne Manson

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Re: Hugh Mackay
« Reply #6 on: Friday 05 November 10 17:11 GMT (UK) »
Hello BB

Sorry for delay in replying.

Re the whereabouts of Hugh Mackay in 1851, there is a Hugh Mackay age 27 from Tongue, working on the road gang at Overscaig. However I’m not convinced it’s your ancestor, the age is wrong and there are others within that age range.

Re Hugh Mackay’s mother:
I agree, different names for Hugh’s mother Ann, wife of William Mackay, are a puzzle, but IMHO it’s most likely that his second wife was Ann Manson.
The name ANN MANSON was used in two events in the OPR, these are solid – marrage 23 Mar. 1822 and baptism of 2nd son James 26 Dec. 1825.
It was quite common in Tongue at that time for women to use two surnames – sometimes they just used their husband’s surname, or perhaps they were illegitimate and used two surnames at whim.
So Ann Manson may also have used the name Mackay. Or perhaps her son Hugh had forgotten his mother’s maiden name, he had been away many years when he married in 1864.
As for the deaths of the other two children,  James (1897) and Mackayina (1898), they were registered by Hugh Mackay, “sub-postmaster and woodcutter” in Coldbackie. He would have no personal knowledge of the family. Maybe he got it right (Manson) with James in 1897; as for (Clark) on Mackayina’s death registration, who knows??
When my parents married, my father gave the registrar his mother’s middle name instead of maiden surname – and the lady was actually at the wedding!
There was a family of Mansons in Coldbackie, and a larger extended family in Dalcharn five minutes away – unfortunately we can’t make connections.
Ann Manson and William Mackay both died before 1855 and no gravestone exists, so lost in the sands of time.
Regards
Mary Young
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