schoenherr (or shoenherr)

[linjarvis]

Mrs Kath Schoenherr is listed as the person Kathleen J Power is visiting in 1929 on immigration papers (she's lsited as her aunt) I think I've found Kath on the 1920 and 1930 US census as Katherine M Schoenherr and as being married to Arthur. Address in 1929 is 14 May (or could be Hay) St, New Rochelle. Anyone know how to find her marriage details (preferably her maiden name). It looks like they were married around 1904 but I don't know where although children are born in New York so this seems logical. Westchester On-line marriage records don't start until 1908 so is there any other possible way of finding details? She appears on a couple of trees but with no more info than I've worked out from census.

Thank you in anticipation

[*Sandra*]

Hi,

Have'nt got the answer to your question yet. It would be nice to find Arthur on an earlier Census to find where he was living in 1900 or 1910 - born Ohio, they could also have married there. I did notice that the 2 nd born son Ralph had the middle name of "LYON" and wondered if you had explored the possibility of that being the maiden name of Katherine.

Just a quick look at the passenger lists - bearing in mind Katherine was born about 1884 Ireland - threw up this one (birth date slightly out but that does not necessarily mean anything):-

New York Passenger List

Katherine Lyon - Born about 1881. Aged 18 years
Arrival Date: 21 Sep 1899

Travelling from Queenstown, Ireland to New York, on the SS Aurania.
Going to a sister Mary Lyon.

Maybe Shellyesq will point you in a better direction than I can but the link below is for the New Rochelle Public Library - it has the "Ask A Librarian " link.  I wonder if this would  be worth an e-mail to enquire if anyone could do a look up for marriage information for Arthur & Katherine or point you in a direction if that was'nt possible.

Have you found the death of Katherine ? Could be a possibility of further information if there was an Obituary Notice.  Sorry I have'nt been more helpful for you but wish you the best of luck 

Regards
Sandra

 http://www.nrpl.org/

[shellyesq]

Assuming they did marry in NY state, you could ask for a look-up of the marriage record as described here - http://ny-genes.blogspot.com/2008/03/new-york-state-vital-records-microfiche.html

[linjarvis]

Thank you to you both. I'm really hoping its not Lyon as a maiden name - despite the work you have done here. (I want it to be Dwyer !!!)

Sorry shellesq for dragging you into another of my searches - I was too embarrassed to ask you again for more info this time on a new person.  The ny-genes blog address you posted has moved. Does this mean the free look-up offer is not available anymore? And what an great offer by this person regardless of whether it is still available. I remain amazed at the kindness of everyone I've ever dealt with in relation to geneology. Perhaps a few world leaders should take up a search for each others families!

[*Sandra*]

Aaaah. OK. So we could really do with a passenger list for Katherine Dwyer in 1899/1900 which were the 2 immigraion dates, as well as a confirmation of her maiden name from the marriage. 

[linjarvis]

That would be perfect!. Sorry don't know how to put the smiling face things in so have to keep resorting to exclamation marks.

Problem is Dwyer (or even O'Dwyer which the family says is the real surname) is really popular Irish surname and Kate is just as bad particularly as it could be spelt half a dozen differnt ways. Story has it that 4 girls went over (Katherine, Mary - an impossible Irish name to search for- Annie and Johanna) and possibly some brothers went as well. They are supposed to be from Cashel in Tipperarary.

I have  found Annie by the same route as I found the Schoenherr name (some later family emigrating and naming them as the place they were headed). Its my only means by which to trace the Irish part of the family as g/father changed his name to Power when he left for Wales and no-one knows why.

[*Sandra*]

Just click on the faces of the yellow symbols for which ever one you want to use. 

Would you happen to have dates of birth for them to help discount what isn't them 

Have a Mary (age 20) & Annie Dwyer (age 16)  together on 29th feb 1892 on the Aurania 

[linjarvis]

Thanks for the tip

I have Annie as being b about 1880 and on Teutonic from Queenstown to NY in 1900 where she is listed as staying with sister Mary in 9496 Varick St NY. This same address (only this time it says 94.96 Varik St) appears for Mary Dwyer (b about 1879)  in 1902 on the Germanic where she is listed as staying with her uncle Mr Donnelly at that address. I think Mary comes and goes several times from what I can make out.

Sorry for the delay but a certain website beginning with A and ending with Y is very slow here - it appeared on the news a few days ago and I think its very busy

[shellyesq]

The ny-genes blog address you posted has moved. Does this mean the free look-up offer is not available anymore? And what an great offer by this person regardless of whether it is still available.

The blog itself has moved for future updates, but, as far as I know, the offer as described in the March 10, 2008 entry still stands.  The blog doesn't have anything to do with the library.