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COMPLETED. John Prothero(e) Merthyr/Hereford
« on: Monday 16 August 10 20:48 BST (UK) »
John Prothero(e) married Sarah Ann Hope in 1872. I have found him in the 1871 census living at 71 John Street with his Father John (a blacksmith)and stepmother Ann along with 2 step siblings. He was born in Herfordshire. This all ties in with the info on the marriage certificate so I am pretty certain he is the the right chap!!

John and Sarah had at least 3 children William John born in 1873, Louisa born in 1877 and Mary Anne born in 1876. At 1 point they lived at 2 Bethel St Georgetown Merthyr.

Apart from that 1 census entry I can find no other record of John Prothero or his children using either spelling apart from a possible entry in Herefordshire in 1851 where he is 10 moths old. Oh yes and the school entry for Georgetown school entry for the 3 children in September 1879

Can anyone please shed any light

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Re: John Prothero(e) Merthyr/Hereford
« Reply #1 on: Monday 16 August 10 21:50 BST (UK) »
Welsh 1861 reference is RG9 Piece 4052 Folio 64 Page 10

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a possible entry in Herefordshire in 1851

That is the right entry
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Re: John Prothero(e) Merthyr/Hereford
« Reply #2 on: Monday 16 August 10 21:58 BST (UK) »
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Re: John Prothero(e) Merthyr/Hereford
« Reply #3 on: Monday 16 August 10 22:12 BST (UK) »
YEEEAAAAHHHHH!!!!!! :)

I have been looking for these for 2 months, thank you so much - never thought there would be a third spelling.

I am fairly new to this so don't really know what to do with the  welsh ref you have given me for the 1861 census

Thank you very much for taking the time to help me

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Re: John Prothero(e) Merthyr/Hereford
« Reply #4 on: Monday 16 August 10 22:32 BST (UK) »
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so don't really know what to do with the  welsh ref you have given me for the 1861 census

On the 1861 search screen - scroll to the bottom of the input fields until you see
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RG9/  Piece Folio Page and input the reference in the appropriate fields
 
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Re: John Prothero(e) Merthyr/Hereford
« Reply #5 on: Monday 16 August 10 22:42 BST (UK) »
I am so sorry to be so thick but the 1861 search screen on what site - I do all my stuff on Genes Reunited with a bit of help from freebmg, freereg and sometimes the family search site and am not familia with any other tools.

Thank you for your patience  :)
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Re: John Prothero(e) Merthyr/Hereford
« Reply #6 on: Monday 16 August 10 22:46 BST (UK) »
there is a little complication though!!!!!

1851 mother is Mary Ann

1861 mother is margret

they seem to be same person going by age and p.o.b.

but

1861 son James age 14 lab at Iron works b Mon - is transcribed as James Prothero -and on image his name is dittoed as Prothero
however
in 1851 James is transcribed as James Prothero age 3 -but image reads James Prichard????

then FreeBMD there is a marriage regDec qtr 1847
Monmouth
26 99
on same page (among others)
John Prothero
Margaret Davies
Mary Anne Pritchard

so could this be your John's parent's marriage ???
and which one did he marry??

If it is mary Anne then did she have an illegit son James -or had she been married previously???

a puzzle


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Re: John Prothero(e) Merthyr/Hereford
« Reply #7 on: Monday 16 August 10 22:52 BST (UK) »
this is the census from image - very messy image -difficult to read in parts
53 Ynysyn? St
merthyr Tydfil Glam
George Hughes head M 38 Wood Sawyer E??ley Marsh Hereford
Caroline wife 28 Merthyr Tydfil
Ann daughter 5 merthyr Tydfil
Caroline daughter 2 Merthyr Tydfil
John Prothero Lodger M 36 General Smith Chedlock hereford
Margret Prothero Lodger M 38 Cr???ney Monmouth
James Prothero Lodger 14 lab in Iron Works Cr???ney Mon
John Prothero Lodger 11 Longtown Mon
RG9 4052 64 pages 9 & 10


Carole could you check out the image 1851???
Your opinion would be valued


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Re: John Prothero(e) Merthyr/Hereford
« Reply #8 on: Monday 16 August 10 23:00 BST (UK) »
1851 reads as follows

Longtown Herefordshire

John Prothero 26  blacksmith b Clodock Herefordshire
Maryann 28 b Monmouth
James  3 b Monmouth
John 10 months b Clodock
Jenkin Davis 24 servant - journeyman blacksmith b Gloucs
HO107 Piece 1978 Folio 641 Page 13
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