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Offline Jed Stu

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Please can anyone help find missing Charles Henry Corringham Cliff and his family?

Charles Henry C Cliff Birth 17th Feb 1876 Leeds ref 9b 634
   
1891 118 Fenton St, Leeds
Chas H C Cliff aged 15 living at home with his father
William Henry (Wm Hen) Cliff b1835 occ Architect Surveyor Valuer
and his family

Marriage Dec 1/4 1895  Leeds  9b 816
Charles Cliff
Amelia Smith

Charles Henry Corringham Cliff to be exact - married Amelia Smith 1895
They had two daughters
Mabel
Gladys Louisa
but then they disappear after Mabel’s birth in 1899


Mabel Cliff Birth Mar 1/4 1899 listed as Leeds  9b 520

Mabel Cliff  22nd Feb 1899
Birth address 26 Glossop Terrace Leeds
Dad - Charles Henry Corringham Cliff - County Court Bailiff
Mum Amelia Cliff - formerly Smith

There is one birth in Leeds listed as:   
Gladys Cliff - Birth listed as Jun 1/4 1900 Leeds  9b 420 (BUT THIS IS NOT ‘MY’ Gladys Cliff)

Now they could be in London too during the late 1890’s – where I think Amelia was a nurse at Kings Hospital

Did they change their name to Cuff of something :-) ??
Can any one please find them on the 1901.

I look forward to hearing from you.
Best regards
Jed

PS - I have posted this as 'England - General' rather than West Yorkshire &/or London because they could be in either place.
WALES
Edwards, Jenkins, Rees, Phillips, Thomas, Westphal:
Bridell, Cardiff, Cenarth, Clydey, Eglwyswrw, Llanboidy, Llanfairnantgwyn, Llantood Pem
ENGLAND
Agg, Craddock, Hayward, Heges, Hunt, Pains: Northleach, Coln St Dennis, Gloucestershire

Bradby, Bradly, Hill, Thorp: Preston Candover Hants, London
Collins: Radford Notts
Gunther, Norton, Roberts, Rohlederer: Liverpool, Manchester, Cheshire, Yorks
Mitchell, Pells, Roberts, Sinclair, Thorp, Trery: LONDON
Smith : Felsham, Gedding SUFF

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Re: Missing Charles Henry Corringham Cliff and family Please can you help find 1901
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 18 August 10 01:44 BST (UK) »
Hi Jed

I'm sure there's a whole bunch of us puzzling over this one  ::)  ;D

Do you know what became of any one of them after 1901+
And do you know when/where Amelia was born?

Cheers
AMBLY
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Re: Missing Charles Henry Corringham Cliff and family Please can you help find 1901
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 18 August 10 02:31 BST (UK) »
Hello & thanks Ambly for your note.

Cor' they've got me!!

Here's a few more notes for you...

Amelia was born in Cleckheaton West Yorkshire to Henry (aka Harry) & Ellen (aka Helen) Smith.
Henry Smith's occupation was a Master house painter.

During 1881 they lived on School Street, Cleckheaton

Henry Smith born c1837 occupation Painter & he employed one man & two boys
Ellen was b c1838 (nee Fleming possibly)
& their children:
George B   b 1863 occ Apprentice Painter
Annie         b 1866
Frank         b 1868 a Scholar
Rawdon     b 1872 a Scholar
Amilia         b 1875 a Scholar (Amelia)
Mary E        b 1878 a Scholar
They were all born in Cleckheaton


22nd March 1902 they were on board the 'Scot' - destination Cape, South Africa

Mrs Cliff aged 27    (Amelia with her children - sadly Charles HC Cliff/dad wasn't with them - where is or was he??)
Miss M Cliff aged 2           (Mabel)
Miss G Cliff aged 1            (Gladys)

Sadly Charles Henry Corringham Cliff wasn't on board, was he in South Africa already, did he arrive after his family, did the 1901 enumerator miss-spell Corringham and or Cliff in some way, or even named them as Corringham-Cliff, may be his surname was miss-spelt on board ship too!?

Good luck & fingers crossed.
Kind regards
Jed
WALES
Edwards, Jenkins, Rees, Phillips, Thomas, Westphal:
Bridell, Cardiff, Cenarth, Clydey, Eglwyswrw, Llanboidy, Llanfairnantgwyn, Llantood Pem
ENGLAND
Agg, Craddock, Hayward, Heges, Hunt, Pains: Northleach, Coln St Dennis, Gloucestershire

Bradby, Bradly, Hill, Thorp: Preston Candover Hants, London
Collins: Radford Notts
Gunther, Norton, Roberts, Rohlederer: Liverpool, Manchester, Cheshire, Yorks
Mitchell, Pells, Roberts, Sinclair, Thorp, Trery: LONDON
Smith : Felsham, Gedding SUFF


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Re: Missing Charles Henry Corringham Cliff and family Please can you help find 1901
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 01 August 20 19:46 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Charles Henry Corringham Cliff is my 2nd Great-Grandfather.
B. 17 February 1876, Leeds, Yorkshire, UK
D. 11 December 1948 in Durban, KwaZulu-Natal, South Africa

Married Amelia Smith
B. 1874, Cleckheaton, Yorkshire, England
D. 6 Sept 1907, East London, Eastern Cape, South Africa

Daughter Mabel Cliff
B. 1899 (I have no info)

His daughter Gladys Louise Cliff
B.26 April1901 Leeds, Yorkshire, UK
D.28 June 1978 Gweru, Zimbabwe

Married Daniel George Weineck on 15 November 1918 in Zimbabwe.

Gave birth to my grandfather Leslie Randal Weineck
B. 20 August 1948

Let me know if you need more information?

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Re: Missing Charles Henry Corringham Cliff and family Please can you help find 1901
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 02 August 20 00:49 BST (UK) »
Do you have the birth certificate for Gladys Louise born 1901 Leeds?

If so, what is the street address please?

Jo  :)
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Re: Missing Charles Henry Corringham Cliff and family Please can you help find 1901
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 02 August 20 01:27 BST (UK) »
Do you have the birth certificate for Gladys Louise born 1901 Leeds?

If so, what is the street address please?

Jo  :)

Well, her baptism was 21st July 1901 Cleckheaton, St John
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PS her fathers occupation was Printer., possibly should be painter?
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