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Re: John McGough b1846, Glasgow - Can't find birth cert.
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 28 August 10 13:47 BST (UK) »
With the refence to the burial at Dalbeth, just checked the Roman Catholic baptisms which have recently come on line at Scotlands People (marriage to follow at some point....):

B. 24/11/1845 - bapt. 27/11/1845   MCGROCH   JOHN. Parents: FRANCIS MCGROCH/ANN MARTEMA
B. 05/12/1849 - bapt. 05/12/1849   MCGEOUGH   FRANCES. Parents: FRANCIS MCGEOUGH/ANN MORTIMER
B. 22/06/1851 - bapt. 23/06/1851   MCGEOGH   PHILIP. Parents: FRANCIS MCGEOGH/ANN MORTIMER
B. 02/04/1853 - bapt. 02/04/1853   MCGEOCH   MICHAEL. Parents: FRANCIS MCGEOCH/ANNE MARTIMER

Original images are available to view on line at SP.

All batisms were are St Andrew's in Glasgow.

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Re: John McGough b1846, Glasgow - Can't find birth cert.
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 28 August 10 13:52 BST (UK) »
Death of Baby Bridget McGough
3 months old, March 1856

1856
MCGOUGH, BRIDGET
Stat deaths 644/05 0246
Page 82 no. 246
Bridget Mc Gough (single)
Died: 31 March 1856 2 h 30 min pm
81 Bridgegate st Glasgow
female
3 months
Francis McGough Tailor Journeyman, Ann McGough maiden name Mortimer dec.
Cause of death: Debility from Birth
No medical attendant.
Burial place: Dalbeth cemetery, Glasgow. As certified by James Lynch, undertaker.
Signature, qualifications and residence of informant: Francis McGough
Father [signed in wobbly writing]
When and where registered: 1856. April 1st at Glasgow.
John Straw [?] registrar


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Re: John McGough b1846, Glasgow - Can't find birth cert.
« Reply #20 on: Saturday 28 August 10 13:56 BST (UK) »
Monica

you are amazing - I would NOT have found this - ever!

B. 24/11/1845 - bapt. 27/11/1845   MCGROCH   JOHN. Parents: FRANCIS MCGROCH/ANN MARTEMA

many many thanks

onto sp now!

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Re: John McGough b1846, Glasgow - Can't find birth cert.
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 28 August 10 14:07 BST (UK) »
Hello again

I don't know why but I am getting '0' hits with searching for him in pre 1855 births/baptisms on scotland's people - why!?

B. 24/11/1845 - bapt. 27/11/1845   MCGROCH   JOHN. Parents: FRANCIS MCGROCH/ANN MARTEMA

is anyone else able to get to the  '1 credit needed' stage?
and let me know what I am doing wrong !?

thanks
Julie


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Re: John McGough b1846, Glasgow - Can't find birth cert.
« Reply #22 on: Saturday 28 August 10 14:11 BST (UK) »
Sorry - found it - was so excited I did not go into the  correct Roman Catholic section

thanks again
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Re: John McGough b1846, Glasgow - Can't find birth cert.
« Reply #23 on: Saturday 28 August 10 14:13 BST (UK) »
You need to go on to the RC baptism database which is separate to the OPR births pre 1855. When you are on the main search options, look to the r/h side under 'Other Records'. You will see listed there: Catholic Parish Registers 1703-1955. If you click on that, and then on the next screen click on : Please Click Here to Search Births & Baptisms

I searched surname as m*cg*o*h, and then Fran* for father's name. You might as well get all the entries (max. up to 25 on one page of search results) in one go on the search screen so that you can go back and view more images if you want to for the rest of the family at a later date  :)

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Re: John McGough b1846, Glasgow - Can't find birth cert.
« Reply #24 on: Saturday 28 August 10 14:21 BST (UK) »
Not sure if you will find any trace of McGough stones at Old Dalbeth Cemetery. Gerry Farrell has done a huge amount of research at Old Dabelth. Lots of pictures and info on these posts:

www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,324578.0.html
www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,338593.0.html
www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,352095.0.html

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Re: John McGough b1846, Glasgow - Can't find birth cert.
« Reply #25 on: Saturday 28 August 10 14:24 BST (UK) »
Here is his birth - finally!

BIRTH OF JOHN MCGOUGH 24 November 1845
Roman Catholic
Transcribed as: 1845 MCGROCH, JOHN [S.C.A. Births MP 0062 00001 00002 00005 00343-031 Glasgow, St Andrews.

P341 - 2
Names of children: John
Legitimacy: lawful
1845 names of parents: Francis McGrouch & Ann Martema
When born: 24 November 1845
When baptized: 27 November 1845
1845 names of sponsors: James Boyle & Helen Cogans [?]
Name of clergyman: Thomas Leady [?]
 
but what a lot I have learnt from you about the crowded conditions in Glasgow and their district in particular,

and that John had 2 siblings who died young as did his mother. He was not an only child. I need to digest it all.

Also that he was born a Roman Catholic but married as a Presbyterian. Was this common?

when he married he was living at 38 st Andrews Square - was that a healthier location ?

The last time I can find the Mc in the McGough in the family was in 1920 by my great grandfather David signing his mother Helen McGough's death cert. The Mc was it seems forgotten until recently.

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Re: John McGough b1846, Glasgow - Can't find birth cert.
« Reply #26 on: Saturday 28 August 10 14:29 BST (UK) »
Going out now.  Will download the other children's records later. Thanks for info re: the Dalbeth cemetery and Gerry Farrell. Julie Gough