Nobles in Kilmarnock 1790's

[McKeown]

Looking to find out some more info with regards Daniel Noble, shoemaker (master??) who married a Mary Ritchie in Kilmarnock (Parish) in 1797.

I have searched Scotlands People for Daniel and cannot come up with a birth record. As it is an OPR, there is no record of his birth.

I have a Daniel Noble born in Ratho in 1783. This would make him 13 when he got married.

Is this a possibility back in those days? Something tells me no.

[shirl100]

According to the Society of Genealogists in Scotland boys could marry at 14 and girls at the age of 12 without parental consent.

Shirl

[McKeown]

Thanks for the reply Shirl.

Interesting, but I still dont think it is a possibility, or am I being extremely nieve?

[hume]

Hi McKeown,

Have you tried looking at the original image on SP? It may reveal what parish this Daniel was from.

I would be hesitant in accepting this as the same person; the name isn't that uncommon. There is however the chance that the baptism was when he was aged x years instead of soon after his birth. Have you looked at the original image of this on SP also?

hume

[McKeown]

Hi Hume,
I have purchased the original from SP.

It is a 3 line statement. I would log into SP just now and transpose it, but I am having trouble logging in.

It only mentions that they were married in the parish. No other names. Parents or witnesses.

Would Kilmarnock Parish Church maybe have more records?

[hume]

Hi McKeown,

I can't imagine there would be anymore re the marriage in any other records. Unfortunately this is one of the cases where not a lot of information is given at all. Parents' names are rarely included at all in the parish records; the best that can be hoped for is a father's name for either the bride or groom.

hume

[McKeown]

Thanks.

Dead end then!

[wellington35]

I'm researching a Daniel Noble (shoemaker) who married Ann Wyllie on 12 Jun 1829 in Kilmarnock. She then married James Pinkerton on 14 Dec 1840. But I can only find the death of a Daniel Noble on 3 August 1845 (Balerno - aged 60). The 1841 census lists him as 50 then so even with the 5 yr rounding down this would be a little out but accuracy is never guaranteed! Do you have a death record for Mary Ritchie?

Don't know if that helps at all?!!

[McKeown]

Interesting.
Ratho and Balerno aint that far apart. This may be a interesting development.

At Present I do not have a Death Cert for Mary Ritchie. I may need to hun that down.