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Who was "little friend"???.....
« on: Tuesday 07 September 10 10:05 BST (UK) »
Hi All

Bit of a strange one to me!.....with the very kind help of Iria,  I've located the burial of a rellie in Toxteth Park Cemetery and luckily there is a headstone with alot of info!! I knew about Daniel, his wife Margaret and son Robert but have no idea who Daniel's "little friend" was?? On first look I can see no family connection....would it be possible for Lewis to be a friend's or neighbour's son??....was this the done thing!?......any thoughts or opinions appreciated........

Sarah :)
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Re: Who was "little friend"???.....
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 07 September 10 10:18 BST (UK) »
It is possible the family of the little friend wanted him to be buried with someone who knew him, or that they could not afford a grave plot themselves

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Re: Who was "little friend"???.....
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 07 September 10 10:53 BST (UK) »
Hi Menwuk

Was thinking along the same lines.....I suppose it saved "little friend" from a pauper/public burial.....rather sweet really! :)

Sarah :)
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Re: Who was "little friend"???.....
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 07 September 10 13:12 BST (UK) »
I have found the following entry at http://www.toxtethparkcemetery.co.uk

Woodward, Daniel 23 April 1910 48 years Warehouseman 42 Geraint Street   Toxteth Park
The record is in the unconsecrated section


I can find no record of the little friend in 1911
I have found in the consecrated section
Lloyd, Peter 22 November 1911 15 months Infant 29 Hughson Street

The dates are wrong for Lewis, but everything else matches and Hughson St is just round the corner from Geraint st.

Also found John's entry
Woodward, John 23 November 1918 23 years Soldier 42 Geraint Street   Toxteth Park Subsequent 1983







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Re: Who was "little friend"???.....
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 07 September 10 13:15 BST (UK) »
Ignore me
what a muppet I am
didnt read the headstone properly re the friends name

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Re: Who was "little friend"???.....
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 07 September 10 13:25 BST (UK) »
You dont think there could have been an almighty cock up on the headstone engraving do you ?


Morgan, Louisa Lloyd 7 June 1911 14 months Infant 39 Cawdon Street   Toxteth Park Subsequent 1798 35925 4 21 352 CEM 9/2/7


The grave No 21 is the same for both Daniel and Louisa

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Re: Who was "little friend"???.....
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 07 September 10 13:34 BST (UK) »
Cant do tabs on here but both are section 4 grave 21 (after the 5 digit no starting 35xxx)

Woodward, Daniel 23 April 1910 48 years Warehouseman 42 Geraint Street   Toxteth Park Purchased Grave 1762 35208 4 21 3
Morgan, Louisa Lloyd 7 June 1911 14 months Infant 39 Cawdon Street   Toxteth Park Subsequent 1798 35925 4 21 352

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Re: Who was "little friend"???.....
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 07 September 10 13:38 BST (UK) »
Hi

Kenneth Lloyd Morgan married Grace Jones Sept Qrt 1907
 Toxteth Park Reg Office/Reg Attended

Hope This Helps

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Re: Who was "little friend"???.....
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 07 September 10 13:55 BST (UK) »
It does say Lewis Lloyd (Morgan) son of  Kenneth and Grace Morgan, so can't be Louisa Lloyd, unless the engraver, having already engraved the name Lewis, just decided it was a son.

There was a Louis Ll. Morgan with parents Evan and Grace at Northbrook Street, Toxteth in 1911.  Surely the engraver didn't get the father's name wrong too?

FreeBMD has the death registration as Louis L Morgan, so definitely a male.

Lizzie