Royal Irish Regiment - Dudley HUSSEY

[johnny_doyle]

the signature of Mrs D Hussey of Rathmullan

http://applications.proni.gov.uk/UlsterCovenant/image.aspx?image=W0019760003


No sign of himself.

[sihuss]

Ah, that's brilliant!!    

And there's her mum just above her egging her on!  The rest of the Anderson family appear to have also signed elsewhere.

I suppose its no surprise that Presbyterians from Ulster were against Home Rule.

The Hussey's themselves seem to have been an odd mix of RC and COI, so that may explain why Dudley himself did not sign the covenant.

Thanks for that Johnny - another direct hit for you    And I thought I'd exhausted the online references to Dudley!   Keep up the good work!

Much obliged.

Simon

[johnny_doyle]

I had a go searching for "Hawthorne Hussey" and came across an RIC District Inspector William Hawthorne Hussey with son of the same name. Any possibility that he is a relation? One census he says he's born Dublin, another he's put Roscommon. Ancestry shows Roscommon as place of birth.

He seems to have come off worse in a riot in 1919

http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&d=WH19091018.2.14&l=mi&e=-------10--1----0-all

which ties in with a death record on LDS.

Cannot understand why there's so little info in the various databases re a man with such an unusual name.

[sihuss]

Hi Johnny_Doyle,

Many thanks for the newspaper clipping.  William and his father Edward F Hussey were both supposedly quite high up in the RIC, but I haven't had a chance to check Irish newspaper archives as yet.

Although I need to get Dudley's marriage cert to confirm, I'm 99% sure William was Dudley's brother.  I transcribed a birth entry for William from the Castlrea (Co. Roscommon) COI records.  In fact, I transcribed entries for the entire family, except.... you've probably guessed it - Dudley...

You'll have noticed an Ethel Maud Hussey on William's census returns - the only Ethel Hussey in either 1901/1911 census.  Conveniently, she also turned up on the Ulster Covenant... with her address given as Rathmullan    Coincidence?

Given that Dudley DVH Hussey doesn't appear in Civil Index births or deaths, or in either census, (or in Castlerea COI records for that matter), I wondered if perhaps Dudley was not his given name.  I'm at a loss to be honest!

Any thoughts??? 

Simon

[johnny_doyle]

I see where you're going with the Ethel link. Very good.

Was Edward Hussey married to Elizabeth Hawthorne, 1852, daughter of Arthur Hawthorne. William H then born circa 1857. If Dudley DVH Hussey was William's brother he would have been potentially quite old marrying Laura and then enlisting.

this seems to be Edward in the 1901 census

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai000705302/

I see he's RC (and a Wexfordman to boot - though I see on another thread you've got his father as a "blow in" to Wexford) while the daughters are CoI - but both very young. so perhaps Dudley DVH could be William's brother.... but still old marrying Laura and then enlisting.

Any idea where the De Vere comes from?

Ancestry has an 18year old Edward Hussey from Wexford enlisting in the RIC in 1845.

[sihuss]

Hi Johnny_Doyle,

yes, it had occurred to me that Edward and Elizabeth would have to had Dudley very late on in order for the Anderson marriage and enlistment to make any sense. 

Its possible of course that I'm missing out a generation - that maybe one of Edward's sons 'begot' Dudley DVH Hussey.  Anyway, I'll hopefully pick up Dudley DVH's marriage cert on Friday and that will at least solve that aspect of things!  I'm hoping to get a look at the RIC microfilm sometime soon too, so I can see what info that throws up.

No idea where the De Vere comes from. 

It's MY family that are the blow-in's to Wexford.    Both my parents were originally from Dublin!    Did I see you have some Enniscorthy connection yourself?

Anyway, thanks again for your continued interest and support.
Simon

[johnny_doyle]

stumbled on a family tree with Eward and Elizabeth on Ancestry with a reference to another of William's brothers KIA in 1917 with the Australian forces :

http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=78833

http://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/scripts/Imagine.asp?B=6928081

although the service records states born in Brisbane. A letter from his daughter re the father's death also enquires about the brother - Arthur Dudley Hussey

http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=300341

He seems to have got in a bit of bother and received a 3yr prison sentence after court martial, commuted to 6months in military prison.

http://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/scripts/Imagine.asp?B=6928261

[johnny_doyle]

It's MY family that are the blow-in's to Wexford.    Both my parents were originally from Dublin!    Did I see you have some Enniscorthy connection yourself?

Yes to the Enniscorthy connection. My grandfather, John Stephen Doyle, was born there 26th December 1912, the 2nd son on Daniel Doyle (Enniscorthy) and Kate Neill/O'Neill (Kiltealy/Askin Villar). Moved up to Dublin in the 1930's after a stint in the Free State Army. The cottage he grew up in is in Solsborough - just to the north of Enniscorthy. My father's from Dublin (Harold's Cross) as is the wife (Rathgar).

[sihuss]

Yeah - tragic story that.  Father and son died within a week or 2 or two of each other.  Some talk of the father having falsified records in order to follow his son to war.

Had flagged the arthur DUDLEY hussey on day 1 of my research but wasn't until recently I found the link between us.  As I may have said already, every Dudley Hussey bar some people surnamed 'Dudley-Hussey' in America have transpired to be connected.

FYI My g grandfather (Dudley Hussey!!!) lived in Rathgar for a long time.  He was one of the founders of Bohemians FC.  I'm fairly familiar with the area myself as I spent much of the last 6 years living up the road in Rathfarnham.

Cheers,
Simon