1841,1851,1861 census lookup - Elford, Staffs

[tjwalsh]

Could someone please check for the following 2 people in these 3 censuses and let me know the details of the household for each of them. 

Thomas Clement born circa 1831 in Elford, was a Shoemaker
Emma Clement nee Ditchfield born circa 1833 in Elford

They were living together in the 1861 census but not the previous two as they married in 1855 in Elford.

Any information would be gratefully received.

Many thanks,

Theresa

[LeeW]

Hi

Here are the only 2 Clement families living in Elford in 1841 (next door to each other!):

Frederick Clement, 35, Shoe mf
Amelia, 30
Thomas, 10
Charles, 6
Ann, 3
Frederick, 1

Robert Clement, 35, Shoe mf
Elizabeth, 30
George, 9
Alfred, 7
Thomas, 5
Mary, 3
Robert, 1

all were "born in the county"

Ref is HO107/979/8

Lee.

[LeeW]

and here is Emma in 1841 in Elford:

John Ditchfield, 55, Ag Lab
Ann, 55
Hannah, 15
Emma, 8

All were "born in the county"

Lee.

[LeeW]

Emma in 1851:

John Ditchfield, head, 66, Parish belige? formerly Ag Lag, b Staffs C????ford
Ann, wife, 67, work in gardings?, b Staffs Lichfield
Emma, grand daughter, 18, b Elford
George, grand son, 15, b Elford

Thomas in 1851:

Frederick Clement, head, 42?, shoemaker, born Elford
Amelia, wife, 41, b Barton
Thomas, son, 20, apprenice, b elford
Frederick, son, 10, b elford
John, son, 8, b elford
William, son, 4, b elford

do you know who Emma's father was? There are a few more ditchfield living in Elford in 1841 and 1851 which are probably her parents...

Lee.

[LeeW]

and finally.. in 1861:

Thomas Clement, head, 30, ?, b elford
Emma, wife, 28, b elford
George, son, 5 , b elford
Charles, son, 4, b elford
Frederick, son ,1, b elford

didn't get about much did they

Lee.

[tjwalsh]

Fantastic - thanks ever so much.  No they didnt seem to move around much at all.  Apparently the Clements lived in Elford for centuries - lol.

Thanks again - much appreciated. 

[tjwalsh]

Sorry just read your question.  On the marriage certificate it states that Emma Ditchfields father is unknown - so I was hoping that looking at the census would shed some light on who her parents were. 

Not quite sure what to do now though - should I post another request after for someone to look up the parish register for her birth do you think?

Again thanks for the help.

[LeeW]

Yes that may help although usually if the father is unknown on the marriage certificate he is usually unknown everywhere else as well - and given that the children have their mothers surname they must have been born out of wedlock.

If you find out who their mother is then you may be able to find her in 1841 (although she may have got married and changed her surname by then).

I'll have a look in Elford when I get home for a female Ditchfield living on her own, or with employers...  thankfully Elford is only about 20 pages

Lee.

[LeeW]

Have a look here someone who will be able to do Elford parish lookups for you:

http://freespace.virgin.net/willen.hall/sts.html

Lee.