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Emily Alice Gray & Fanny Nicholls look up
« on: Wednesday 22 September 10 14:18 BST (UK) »
Hi

Can anyone please give us the parents and dob or bap of Emily Alice Gray b @1854 Tewin d 1905 and Fanny Nicholls b @1858 d 11/6/1924

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Re: Emily Alice Gray & Fanny Nicholls look up
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 22 September 10 14:21 BST (UK) »
In 1871 shes with parents Daniel and Matilda + siblings, do you want transcription of full household?

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Dunning/Downing, Osborn/e, Astley -Cheshire/Birmingham/Middlesex
Fanthorpe/Hall/Driffill/Storm - Lincolnshire
Bower/Woodward/Bingham/Pettinger/Shaw - Nottinghamshire
Shaw, Marland - Lancashire
Broph(e)y - Queens County, Ireland
Richards - Neath Swansea
Hunt/Fox - Lincs, Waterfield/Middleton - Staffs
Hart/Harland/Askew/Scales - Yorkshire
Brereton/Vickers - Cheshire
Gleaves/Sandford/Hulse/Hulme - Wolstanton/Audley Staffs
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Re: Emily Alice Gray & Fanny Nicholls look up
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 22 September 10 14:25 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Found Emily on http://www.pilot.familysearch.org


Emily Alice Grey,  christening 5 Nov 1854, Tewin, Hertford, England

Parents:  Daniel & Matilda


Nanny Jan
Howard , Viney , Kingsman, Pain/e, Rainer/ Rayner, Barham, George, Wakeling (Catherine), Vicary (Frederick)   all LDN area/suburbs  Ottley/ MDX,
Henman/ KNT   Gandy/LDN before 1830  Burgess/LDN
Barham/SFK   Rainer/CAN (Toronto) Gillians/CAN  Sturgeon/CAN (Vancouver)
Bailey/LDN Page/KNT   Paling/WA (var)



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Re: Emily Alice Gray & Fanny Nicholls look up
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 22 September 10 14:28 BST (UK) »
Her address is Queen Hoo Hall Farm, Daniel (age 59 born Hatfield Herts) is a Farmer of 280 acres employing 10 men and 5 boys. Siblings are Arthur (13) and James (10) + 2 farm servants + a visitor (formerly servant) Lucy Chalkley (56)

In 1861 -

RG9/826 Folio 20 Page 34
Welwyn, Herts

Daniel Gray 49 Timber Dealer Master Hatfield
Matilda 45 Pauls Walden
Daniel 18 Assistant to Timber Dealer Hatfield
John 13        "                     "  Hatfield
Cathrine 10 Scholar Hatfield
Elizabeth 9 Scholar Hatfield
Emily A 6 Scholar Tewin
Charles 5 Scholar Tewin
Arthur 3 Scholar Tewin
James 11mo Welwyn

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Dunning/Downing, Osborn/e, Astley -Cheshire/Birmingham/Middlesex
Fanthorpe/Hall/Driffill/Storm - Lincolnshire
Bower/Woodward/Bingham/Pettinger/Shaw - Nottinghamshire
Shaw, Marland - Lancashire
Broph(e)y - Queens County, Ireland
Richards - Neath Swansea
Hunt/Fox - Lincs, Waterfield/Middleton - Staffs
Hart/Harland/Askew/Scales - Yorkshire
Brereton/Vickers - Cheshire
Gleaves/Sandford/Hulse/Hulme - Wolstanton/Audley Staffs
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov


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Re: Emily Alice Gray & Fanny Nicholls look up
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 22 September 10 16:06 BST (UK) »
In 1851, Emily's parents and siblings -

HO107/1712 Folio 166 Page 25
Stanborough, Bishops Hatfield, Herts

Daniel Gray 39 Ag Lab Hatfield?
Matilda 34 Straw Platter Pauls......den
Ann 12 Scholar Hatfield
William 10 Scholar Hatfield
Daniel 6 Scholar Hatfield
John 3 Hatfield
Catherine 7mo Hatfield

and 1841 HO107/436/11 Folio 7 Page 10
Stanboro, Bishops Hatfield, Herts
Daniel Gray 25 Ag Lab All born in county
Matilda 20
Ann 2
William D 6mo

(theres also a James (age 30) and Elizabeth Gray and family on the same page)

Marriage?

Daniel Gray Setember 1837 Hatfield Vol 6 Page 563
also on same page - Matilda Chalkley (same surname as their visitor Lucy in 1871)
Dunning/Downing, Osborn/e, Astley -Cheshire/Birmingham/Middlesex
Fanthorpe/Hall/Driffill/Storm - Lincolnshire
Bower/Woodward/Bingham/Pettinger/Shaw - Nottinghamshire
Shaw, Marland - Lancashire
Broph(e)y - Queens County, Ireland
Richards - Neath Swansea
Hunt/Fox - Lincs, Waterfield/Middleton - Staffs
Hart/Harland/Askew/Scales - Yorkshire
Brereton/Vickers - Cheshire
Gleaves/Sandford/Hulse/Hulme - Wolstanton/Audley Staffs
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Re: Emily Alice Gray & Fanny Nicholls look up
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 22 September 10 16:33 BST (UK) »
Can we have a clue about Fanny Nicholls as there are a couple of possibilities, one a Farmers daughter, one a Tailors daughter  :-\
Dunning/Downing, Osborn/e, Astley -Cheshire/Birmingham/Middlesex
Fanthorpe/Hall/Driffill/Storm - Lincolnshire
Bower/Woodward/Bingham/Pettinger/Shaw - Nottinghamshire
Shaw, Marland - Lancashire
Broph(e)y - Queens County, Ireland
Richards - Neath Swansea
Hunt/Fox - Lincs, Waterfield/Middleton - Staffs
Hart/Harland/Askew/Scales - Yorkshire
Brereton/Vickers - Cheshire
Gleaves/Sandford/Hulse/Hulme - Wolstanton/Audley Staffs
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Re: Emily Alice Gray & Fanny Nicholls look up
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 22 September 10 19:58 BST (UK) »
ps. there are christenings on the IGI for a Matilda and Lucy Chalkley (+ a couple of others I think, including a son, John), parents William and Catherine Chalkley
(and a possible marriage - William Chalkley and Catherine Wrenn, can't remember what year though)

Catherine and son John are on the 1841 census here -

Catherine Chalkley 50 Bonnet Sewer? N
John 10 Y

Village of Whitewell? St Pauls Walden, Herts
HO107/438/15 Folio 6 Page 8

in 1851, Catherine has remarried -

Catherine Glass 62 widow Formerly Masons wife Pauls Walden
John Chalkley son 20 Ag Lab Pauls Walden
+ lodger George Kilby 23 Police Officer
Whitewell, St Pauls Walden, Herts

(next door is a James Wren, age 64, a Brewer, daughter Sarah and nephew George Chalkley 25)

The marriage is on the IGI - Catherine Chalkley and Thomas William Glass 31st May 1841 Old Church, St Pancras, London - her name is listed as "Chalkley or Hutchins" - in 1871 she is with son William Wren born Whitewell c1824, and on the IGI theres a birth for a William Wrenn with parents Christopher Wrenn and Catharine, so possibly Hutchins is her maiden name

(if you google "Glass and Wren Whitwell", the first link should be about a message from a Linda Cox regarding a document she has where Catherine Wren Glass is transferring some property to her daughter Amy Wren)
Dunning/Downing, Osborn/e, Astley -Cheshire/Birmingham/Middlesex
Fanthorpe/Hall/Driffill/Storm - Lincolnshire
Bower/Woodward/Bingham/Pettinger/Shaw - Nottinghamshire
Shaw, Marland - Lancashire
Broph(e)y - Queens County, Ireland
Richards - Neath Swansea
Hunt/Fox - Lincs, Waterfield/Middleton - Staffs
Hart/Harland/Askew/Scales - Yorkshire
Brereton/Vickers - Cheshire
Gleaves/Sandford/Hulse/Hulme - Wolstanton/Audley Staffs
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov

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Re: Emily Alice Gray & Fanny Nicholls look up
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 23 September 10 13:05 BST (UK) »
Thanks for all the info.

As regards Fanny Nicholls all I know is that she m my ggg grandfather's son Christopher Haines in Jun qtr 1907 Bramfield? (Hertford 3a 1167)

He was running Bacons Farm, Bramfield at the time. This was his second m (prev m Emily Alice Gray Mar qtr 1884 London (Pancras 1b 166) she d 1905

Fanny and Christopher were bur (with other Nicholls) at St Andrews Bramfield. There is another grave stone bearing Nicholls names - so possibly they were living in the area

Was this her first m?

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Re: Emily Alice Gray & Fanny Nicholls look up
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 23 September 10 13:10 BST (UK) »
Thanks Cat we would like the full details of the 1871 Census

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