1851 BETNALL GREEN please

[Bryant]

ABEL DURELL married MARY ANN BECRAFT .........MARCH QTR 1853...POPLAR

Got their in the end
Bryant

[SueB]

How clever you are ...

I have just sent you a message saying I would look for their marriage and then another message appears with the info.

I must now try and find their dates of birth although I have tried Abbott's in Bethnal Green many times but if I get the marriage certificate it may give me a bit more info.

Thank you so much  -  just wish I had the logic to think the way you did.

Hope you don't mind me contacting you if I come across any other difficult problems.


SueB

[Bryant]

No promises...........but he may be older than Mary

1841
BOWERS FARM, COLESHILL, AMERSHAM, HERTFORDSHIRE
JAMES DORRELL  70  FARMER   NO
MARY        "          70                 NO
THOMAS   "          35     "            NO
ABEL        "           30    "            NO
HESTER    "           20                 NO
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the only Abel Dorrell that I can see.............and as he wasn't born in Hertfordshire (NO)...now all you need is evidence 

Bryant

[Bryant]

I said no promises 

10th Sept 1808................LITTLE MISSENDEN, BUCKS
ABE DORRELL christianed...........parents JAMES & MARY

SO.......................if your AB* was born in Bethnal Green, Middx......he doesn't appear to be that one?

definitely not that one.........his brother Thomas was christianed 1804 at the same place and parents James & Mary (Langston) married at Monks Risborough, Bucks in 1794

Sorry
Bryant

[Bryant]

Having had a look around..........the Durell's
Saint Matthews, Bethnal Green could hold the key......be aware as many forms of Durell are there!

but I think you will need that marriage cert first 

Have fun
Bryant

[Bryant]

message from Sueb

I now have their wedding certificate and Abel(Abbott)'s father is listed as Richard Durell, a weaver.

The address for Abel is 10 Cottage Street but I don't know if  it is Bethnall Green or Poplar. Mary Ann Becraft's father is John, a sailmaker and her address is 5 Wall Street, presumably Poplar as that is where the wedding took place.

Both are of full age so now I am hoping to find them or their parents on the 1851 or 1841 census or any parish records
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The PM I sent you with Richard Durell the weaver in 1841..... Abbot's/Abel's father.............Richard does appear a bit on the young side doesn't he?

ABEL DURELL married MARY ANN BECRAFT .........MARCH QTR 1853...POPLAR

Got their in the end
Bryant

1841
GROSVENOR PLACE, ST MATTHEWS BETHNAL GREEN, MIDDX
RICHARD DURELL  30  WEAVER  YES
REBECCA     "        25                  YES
RICHARD     "         5                   YES
/
JOHN           "        32 WEAVER     YES
JAMES          "        18  LAB           YES
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1841
13 GEORGE STREET, STEPNEY
RICHARD BECROFT 45 LAB N
MARY " 45 Y
MARY " 15 Y
ANNE " 15 Y
ELLEN " 12 Y
ELIZABETH " 9 Y
ELIZA " 5 Y
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14 GEORGE STREET, STEPNEY
JOHN DARRELL 45 CARPENTER N
MARY " 45 N
THOMAS " 20 CARPENTER N
MARGARET " 15 N
WILLIAM " 15 Y
ANNETT " 10 Y
JAMES " 4 Y
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1841 rule on age applies ie 10-14=10, 15-19=15, 20-24=20 etc etc

Bryant

[Bryant]

SueB

If youv'e got those names of the happy couples father's the wrong way round I'm going to come down there and smack your bum..........

tell me you meant to say Richard Becroft and John Durell as per the 1841 census at George Street

Bryant

[SueB]

Well.....

unfortunately it is Richard Durell, weaver and John Becraft, sail maker.

SueB

[Bryant]

SueB

That marriage cert was all based on the 1841 findings ie Mary Becroft aged 15 and the daughter of Richard Becroft
+
the family of John Durell living next door

name of witnesses at the marriage please

 
Bryant