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Offline tilly56

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Diana Fooks - Clophill
« on: Saturday 25 September 10 07:59 BST (UK) »
Help please - I am trying to sort out the name of the wife of James Sinfield.

He was born in abt 1791 in Clophill and died there in 1862.

There is a marriage for him on IGI on the 30 June 1812 at Bow Brickhill. His bride's name is given as Dinah Fooks - which is what is given on various family trees (including mine until now!) on Ancestry.

However, all the censuses give her name as Diana and I have found a death for her with the name Diana in Clophill in 1865. So I think that IGI have given wrong information about her name.

I cannot find anything else on IGI, looking under both Dinah Fooks and Diana Fooks. Could Fooks be Fox? Or is Fooks a Bedfordshire name?

I am trying to find her parents and her husband's - I would be very grateful for any help as I am stuck!

Tilly
Lancaster- L. Buzzard  Johnson - Northampts
Lancaster, Perryer-Fulham
Clifford - London, ssx, S Africa, Berks, Wilts  
Divall-Ssx  Randall-Ssx, Surrey 
Rossi-Sienna Notts Leics London   
Brimfield    Seton 
Rix - Norfolk   Burke - Co Clare



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Re: Diana Fooks - Clophill
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 25 September 10 09:02 BST (UK) »
Don't worry about the Diana/Dinah spelling inconsistency - they are variant spellings of the same name.  It's very common to see someone as Dinah in one census and Diana in the next.

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Re: Diana Fooks - Clophill
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 25 September 10 09:12 BST (UK) »
If it's an extracted item on the IGI then Dinah is what will be in the parish register, so it's not a case of the IGI giving wrong information.

Dinah/Diana are pretty interchangeable.

It's not a common name but there are roughly 30 Fooks in Beds in each census, and Freebmd shows a reasonable smattering in Beds.

There are 12 Fooks baptisms in Bow Brickhill on the IGI but no Dinah, and only one c1790 - John son of Thomas and Mary. It's a long shot but if you're desperate, which you seem to be, you might consider checking out that couple.

Have you checked the marriage entry for additional information eg parishes of residence and witnesses?

David
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Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey/Rook
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey/Rook
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:   Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs: Bourn: Bowd
            Eltisley: Medlock
            Graveley: Ford/Revell

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Re: Diana Fooks - Clophill
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 25 September 10 09:59 BST (UK) »
Hello Steven and David

Thank you very much for your replies.

Yes, I am desperate..... and getting more so!!   :'(

I have been trying to find John son of Thomas and Mary on IGI, but I can't find it...... could you help please?  I have tried all sorts of combinations and searches, but am obviously not looking in the right place!

I have looked again and it is an extracted marriage, so it was Dinah in the parish register.  I don't have any more information on the marriage, only what I found on IGI.............

Can you advise me on what I should do now?

Tilly

Lancaster- L. Buzzard  Johnson - Northampts
Lancaster, Perryer-Fulham
Clifford - London, ssx, S Africa, Berks, Wilts  
Divall-Ssx  Randall-Ssx, Surrey 
Rossi-Sienna Notts Leics London   
Brimfield    Seton 
Rix - Norfolk   Burke - Co Clare



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Re: Diana Fooks - Clophill
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 25 September 10 10:07 BST (UK) »
I have just this minute found the 1841 census for James and Dinah/Diana - apparently they were not born in Bedfordshire!!  Their daughter Catherine, aged 15, was, but son Joseph aged 20 wasn't..... so they would have moved to Beds sometime between 1826 and 1831...... so maybe the marriage is not the right one? ??? ???
Lancaster- L. Buzzard  Johnson - Northampts
Lancaster, Perryer-Fulham
Clifford - London, ssx, S Africa, Berks, Wilts  
Divall-Ssx  Randall-Ssx, Surrey 
Rossi-Sienna Notts Leics London   
Brimfield    Seton 
Rix - Norfolk   Burke - Co Clare



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Re: Diana Fooks - Clophill
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 25 September 10 10:11 BST (UK) »
Oh dear..... I am sorry - I have really got myself into a muddle ..... the marriage was in Buckinghamshire and not Beds, so I am in the wrong county!!
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Back to the drawing board!

Tilly
Lancaster- L. Buzzard  Johnson - Northampts
Lancaster, Perryer-Fulham
Clifford - London, ssx, S Africa, Berks, Wilts  
Divall-Ssx  Randall-Ssx, Surrey 
Rossi-Sienna Notts Leics London   
Brimfield    Seton 
Rix - Norfolk   Burke - Co Clare



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Re: Diana Fooks - Clophill
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 25 September 10 10:37 BST (UK) »
There is also the baptism of Elizabeth, daughter of Thomas & Mary FOLKES at Bow Brickhill, 2 Jun 1788.  I notice that all the FOLKES/FOOKES in the Brickhills are spelled with an 'L' by 1841, but there are several variant spellings in the IGI, FOULKS for example.

The marriage of Thomas FOULKES to Mary DEVERELL at Leighton Buzzard, 18 Aug 1774 looks like a possibility.  I can't see any children from that marriage on the IGI, so they probably escaped over the county border.
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Re: Diana Fooks - Clophill
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 25 September 10 13:52 BST (UK) »
Hello Steven

Thank you very much for your help.

I've been doing a bit of hunting on IGI and it seems that at least some of the elder children of James and Dinah (her name is always given as Dinah)were born in Bow Brickhill in Bucks.... so I think that Dinah could well come from Bucks as this is where they married.  Maybe James was also born in Bucks.

I found Thomas Foulkes and Mary Deverell - I think they are the same as the parents of Elizabeth, but I can't find any siblings for her.

It's been a long time since I've done anything on this branch of the family, so it's a bit difficult to get my thoughts straight....... but I shall keep working on it!  I might just hop over to Bucks and see if somebody can do a "look up" of the marriage for me.

Thank you again

Tilly
Lancaster- L. Buzzard  Johnson - Northampts
Lancaster, Perryer-Fulham
Clifford - London, ssx, S Africa, Berks, Wilts  
Divall-Ssx  Randall-Ssx, Surrey 
Rossi-Sienna Notts Leics London   
Brimfield    Seton 
Rix - Norfolk   Burke - Co Clare



Census information Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk