George and Mary Haines arrived New Zealand 1947/48 looking for descendants *COMP

[Joanna Tolhurst]

George Thomas Haines was my grandmother's cousin.  He was A./Lt. Col. in the Royal Marines before retiring from the force in 1947 www.unithistories.com/officers/RM_officersH.html#Haines_GT
My grandmother always said that he had gone to New Zealand, with his wife Mary and had become a sheep farmer.  She thought he had two children, Sarah and Thomas.

According to www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/Home/  George Thomas Haines died in 1997 and had a birthdate of 28 December 1911.  This ties in with my grandmother's birthday book which has Thomas Haines on December 28.  (Fairly certain that George used his middle name more following his father's, Thomas George Haines, death in 1917 in the war.)

Someone found for me the following crematorium record:

Forename(s): George Thomas
Age: 85 Years
Gender: Male
Date of death: 17 Jan 1997
Date of cremation: 21 Jan 1997
Funeral director: Mark Rowley Funeral Services
16 - 18 Anne Street, Devonport, North Shore City 0624
Ashes status: Returned to Family 28 Jan 1997

In the bdmhistorical records I also found Mary Christina Haines  death in 2004 with a birthdate of 4 Nov 1913. I'm fairly sure that this was george's wife  and that her maiden name was Guise.   There was a marriage of George Thomas Haines and Mary C Guise in Portsmouth area 1934 where the Haines family lived.  Sarah C Haines was born 1939 in the Portsmouth area with a mother whose maiden name was Guise.

If Mary C Guise was George Thomas Haines's wife then I think she was born in New Zealand and travelled to England with her mother also Mary C Guise from New Zealand first in 1930 c/o High Commission for New Zealand, returning to New Zealand January 1931 and then back to Southampton Nov 1931 heading to Portsmouth.

I think Mary Christina Haines with daughter Sarah C age 7  and Andrew age 3 (who I can't find a birth record for yet) travelled to New Zealand on the Rangitiki leaving London 10 May 1947. George T Haines followed on the Rangitata leaving London 2 Jan 1948.

It would be unusual for the wife and children to go first but if she was born in New Zealand then she had family to go to whilst George tidied up affairs in England.

My son is currently in Auckland for a few months as he travels the world.  It would be great to track down the descendants of George Thomas Haines.

Any suggestions of where to look next would be appreciated.
Thankyou
Jo

[Joanna Tolhurst]

To add to the above:
I think that Mary Christina Haines (nee Guise)'s mother also Mary Christina married Henry G Pope in the Portsmouth area 1931. According to the shipping records of 1931 she was born in 1878.  There was a death of Mary Christina Pope in New Zealand in 1976 with a birthdate of 10 Feb 1878.

I think Mary Christina Guise as Mary Pope returned to New Zealand on board the Strathmore 26 April 1940.

[Thamesite2017]

Have you contacted the funeral director to see if he has death notice to show family names, or this could be looked up at Auckland Library by your son
Bye
althea

[Janette]

Here is the link to the Funeral Directors

http://www.rowleyfunerals.co.nz/contact_us_site_info.html?rowleySid=b71b982aaaaa677bc0c855c1177d35b2&mID=1

Cheers Janette

[Beg Clonrode...]

Hello Jo,

I've sent a PM chock full of guesswork. If you follow any of it up would you mind posting back to the board and let us know whether or not any of it is accurate as I'd hate for someone to duplicate my errors.

Regards
Beg

[Joanna Tolhurst]

Thankyou so much. I shall certainly investigate when I get back from work this evening and let you know.
Jo

[New Zealander]

Hi Jo

You said descendants and not ancestors.  How ever your posting has intrigued me for a couple of days now.

It is probably a little earlier then you want but I am aware of Haines family members who died in the early 1900's and are buried in the Queenstown Cemetery, New Zealand.

They had an association with some of our family.

I could provide some details if you required but know some of these people came from the south of England and also Ireland.

Alex G

[Joanna Tolhurst]

Alex I'm not aware of any of the Haines family emigrating prior to George but will check my tree.  I have the family back to the 1700s on the Isle of Wight.

[New Zealander]

Jo

Leave it with you.  If you want further details you know where to go.

Cheers

Alex G