Johannah ? married Peter Meaney

[meaney1955]

please can any one help my great great grand mother was born in1839 co carlow she married peter meaney who was from co clare they moved to england and had a large family my gr/ gr/ grand mothers name was johannah i do not no what her maiden name was or were she was born hope some one can help john m

[obbie]

what DOB have you for peter ?
what is oldest childs name-DOB-where born ?
what is first census you have family on ?
what was peters occupation on censuses ?
do you think they married ireland or england ?
sorry for all the questions but you didnt give much to work on , these answers will help .

[Jack2227]

1881 Eng Cen; Wolstonton Stafford, England

Peter Meany; 53, Clare, Ireland, Stone miner
Johanna (wife); 42, Carlow.
Peter (son); 23, Stafford,  Stone miner
Michael (son); 21, Stone miner
Ellen (dtr); 17, Potters sponger
Mary (dtr); 15
Thomas (son); 12
John (son); 10
James (son); 8
Maggie (dtr); 6
Ann (dtr); 3

[obbie]

so married 1858ish ?

[obbie]

by using
http://www.freebmd.org.uk/
cant find any births staffordshire or liverpool lancs ,
there are some likely maney,s or variations of .

[obbie]

thanks to jacks find of 1881 census

1881 tunstall wolstanton
peter meany 1828 clare stone miner
johanna        1839 carlow
peter             1858 tunstall
michael          1860 burstem
ellen              1864 liverpool
mary              1866 tunstall
thomas          1869 tunstall
john               1871 tunstall
james            1873 tunstall
maggie          1875 tunstall
ann                1878 tunstall

1871 tunstall wolstanton      . note mency surname .
peter mency ireland      coal miners
johanna        ireland
peter             tunstall
mike              bilston            . note different birthplace to 1881
ellen              liverpool
mary              tunstall
thomas         tunstall

so wolstanton birth place for most
using http://www.freebmd.org.uk/ narrow down to wolstanton

peter maney wolstanton birth 1859 march qtr volume 6b page 87 staffordshire
mary manney wolstanton birth 1866 june qtr volume 6b page 105 staffordshire
thomas moan wolstanton birth 1870 sep qtr volume 6b page 138 staffordshire
john manney wolstanton birth 1871 sep qtr volume 6b page 106 staffordshire

possible
michael mainy wolverhampton birth 1861 june qtr volume 6b page 51 staffordshire

id presume parents couldnt read nor write

might be woth askin on staffordshire forum for help with births .
you need to get a couple of births useing parents first names as filters and dads profession miner .
this will hopefully give mothers full name and possible family as witnesses .

once you have johanna,s surname you can try determine did they marry in england or ireland .

goodluck 

[meaney1955]

thank you obbie and jack 2227, it is defo my family from the 1881 census i know johannah died in 1911 in tunstall stoke on trent staffs her maiden name is not on the death certificate i do not no weather peter meaney married johannah over here or in carlow ireland i can not think how i would get her maiden name i allso have there first sons marrage certificate peter born 1859 who is my great grandfarther but no sine of is mothers maiden name peter there son married emma greves once agane thanks meaney1955

[Richard.M.89]

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[meaney1955]

just to let you know that i have found johannas maden name which is mcdonald her fathers name is edmund she marred my grt grt grandfather peter meaney in staffordshire now i need to find out were she was born in co carlow in 1836 meaney55