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UK to Australia - 1851-1858
« on: Tuesday 02 November 10 12:17 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Not sure I have posted this in the right place ....

Jeremiah Ractliffe born abt 1837 in Woodford, Gloucester - he appears on English Census records in 1851 but next time I find him he is in Australia.  He married Ellen Bourhill in 1858 in Victoria, Australia and remained here until his death in 1920. 

I appreciate there are many variations on the surname but I have been unable to find him on any immigration records/passenger lists - anyone got any ideas ???

Many thanks

EAC
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Re: UK to Australia - 1851-1858
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 07 November 10 11:09 GMT (UK) »
Hi EAC,

Don't know if this is your man but:

There was a Jeremiah Radcliffe, age 21 on board the "Greyhound" in August 1857, Fiche 129, Page 002 - unassisted passenger from a British Port.

http://www.prov.vic.gov.au

Cheers,

Janet.

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Re: UK to Australia - 1851-1858
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 07 November 10 11:58 GMT (UK) »
Hi EAC,

Don't know if this is your man but:

There was a Jeremiah Radcliffe, age 21 on board the "Greyhound" in August 1857, Fiche 129, Page 002 - unassisted passenger from a British Port.

http://www.prov.vic.gov.au

Cheers,

Janet.

yes I believe this is him.  My understanding is that the name of this ship was formerly Euroclydon but I havent been able to find a picture of it ...

Thanks for answering did find the answer myself a few days ago but forgot to complete the post !
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Re: UK to Australia - 1851-1858 **completed**
« Reply #3 on: Friday 21 January 11 18:22 GMT (UK) »
Hello
I have just found your message regarding Jeremiah Ractliffe. I wonder if you would be kind enough to tell me where you managed to find the information on his voyage. I have tried the usual passenger lists but no luck.  Also, would you know Jeremiah's occupation please?
Many thanks for any help.
Mo


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Re: UK to Australia - 1851-1858 **completed**
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 22 January 11 15:04 GMT (UK) »
Hi Mofred,

Janet gave details of the passenger list in her post above.  It is the Victorian immigration indexes and the link is:  http://www.access.prov.vic.gov.au/public/PROVguides/PROVguide023/PROVguide023.jsp

I had a look at the entry that the index refers to - Jeremiah's occupation is "Joiner", and he is Irish.

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Re: UK to Australia - 1851-1858 **completed**
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 22 January 11 15:18 GMT (UK) »
If thats the case is not the Jeremiah we are looking for   ??? Ours is Jeremiah Ractliffe - he according to records from Stawell Historic society was English and was a labourer - so back to the drawing board Mo cos as we both know the Ractliffe family you and I are researching are from Gloucester, England ....
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Re: UK to Australia - 1851-1858
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 22 January 11 15:24 GMT (UK) »
Hi EAC,

Don't know if this is your man but:

There was a Jeremiah Radcliffe, age 21 on board the "Greyhound" in August 1857, Fiche 129, Page 002 - unassisted passenger from a British Port.

http://www.prov.vic.gov.au

Cheers,

Janet.

yes I believe this is him.  My understanding is that the name of this ship was formerly Euroclydon but I havent been able to find a picture of it ...

Thanks for answering did find the answer myself a few days ago but forgot to complete the post !


So if the Jeremiah previously posted on here isnt the one we are looking for has anyone else got any other ideas, we know he was on English Census records in 1851 - and married in Australia in 1858 .... Any help gratefully appreciated !!
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Re: UK to Australia - 1851-1858
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 25 January 11 11:19 GMT (UK) »
Hi EAC61 and Mo,

Very sorry to read that this was not the Jeremiah that you were looking for, the Jeremiah that I posted was the only Jeremiah on the Assisted, Unassisted and Outward Passenger Index that came remotely close to the surname that you are researching, so maybe your Jeremiah arrived in Australia via another State.  If so you will need to check passenger lists in each state, links can be found on the Australia Resources Board.

I had a very quick look at the various Victorian Index of Births, Deaths and Marriages from 1836 - 1985 (Have not checked marriages for children).

Jeremiah Ratcliffe married Ellen Bourhill in 1858, Reg#2604.

Jeremiah Ractliffe died 1920, Stawell, age 83, Reg#16428.
Jeremiah’s parents were William Ractliffe and Matilda Unknown.

Ellen Ractliffe, died 26 March 1897, Stawell, age 55, Reg#3285.
Ellen’s Parents were James Bourhill and Margaret Code.

Jeremiah and Ellen had the following children:

James Radcliffe, born 1860, Sand !!, Reg#4855.
James Rarcliffe, died 1931, Stawell, age 71, Reg#11687.

Matilda Ractliffe, born 1866, Moyston, Reg#3959.
Matilda Ractliffe, died 09 January 1920, Stawell age 49, Reg#3568.

William Ractliffe, born 1867, Moyston, Reg#23693.
William Ractliffe, died 1942, Stawell, age 75, Reg#30525.

Ellen Margaret Ractcliffe, born 1869, Moyston, Reg#17603.
Ellen Margaret Ractcliffe, died 1926, Stawell, age 54, Reg#11874.

Charles Ratcliffe, born 1871, Moyston, Reg#11106.
Charles Ractliffe, died 1931, Gisborne, age 60, Reg#14300.

George Ractliffe, born 1873, Moyston, Reg#18780.
George Ractliffe, died 1952, age 78, Reg#19587.

Esther Ractliffe, born 1877, Moyston, Reg#4188.
Esther Ractliffe, died 1896, Stawell, age 18, Reg#15346.

Henry Nathaniel Ratcliffe, born 1880, Ararat, Reg#12803.
Henry Nathaniel Ratcliffe, died 1881, Ararat, age 6 months, Reg#21.

Albert Arthur Ractliffe, born 1882, Stawell, Reg#4526.
Albert Arthur Ractliffe, died 1882, Stawell, age 1 month, Reg#2896.

Alice Ractliffe, born 1883, Pleasant Creek, Reg#4572.
Alice Ractliffe, died 1894, Stawell, age 11, Reg#11245.

On Jeremiah and Ellen’s marriage certificate it will have their parents names and place of birth of the bride and groom.  If there is any doubt about the family that you are following up.

You are able to download and purchase for A$17.50 uncertified images of Victorian certificates online at the following link:
https://online.justice.vic.gov.au/bdm/index-search?action=purchaseImage

There are also digitised wills available for Ellen and Matilda on the following link:
http://www.prov.vic.gov.au/indexes/index_search.asp?searchid=54

Cheers,

Janet.


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Re: UK to Australia - 1851-1858
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 25 January 11 12:22 GMT (UK) »
Hi Janet

Thank you for taking the time to look this family up - except for Nathaniel (which I havent checked out yet) we already had the rest of the info .... We have information of the names of when Jeremiah and Ellen married, and details of Ellens parents, what we are trying to find out is when Jeremiah actually arrived in Australia from the UK as he appears on UK census records in 1851 and married Ellen in 1858 ....

Thanks again

EAC
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