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Relative lost after 1841
« on: Sunday 07 November 10 21:33 GMT (UK) »
Hi all: I'm hoping someone can find Christiana Garside in the 1851 census for me. She would have been 15, but she is not with her parents, James and Rachel Garside, at census time.

Some background:
In the 1841 census, Christiana (born Silkstone in 1836) was enumerated with her parents and several siblings in West Bretton (HG107/1325/8). I have the census image.

I don't have an image of the 1851 census. Apparently, the census page--HO107 Piece 2326 Folio 169 Page 8--is in bad shape and difficult to read. But I do have a transcription showing James and Rachel Garside and five children. Christiana is not among them. Nor is her slightly older sister, Mary Garside, my direct ancestor. Mary is in Stainbrough (HO107, Piece 2333), enumerated as an innkeeper's servant.

James and Rachel Garside lived in West Bretton until at least 1881, so I'm hoping to find that in 1851 Christiana was in the vicinity.

Some evidence that she remained near to West Bretton: I've found a March quarter 1858 marriage in Wakefield for Christiana Garside to either William Copley or George Turner. I've also found a September quarter 1871 death in Wakefield for Christiana Turner, age 36.

Thanks in advance,
John  :o :o :o
ENGLAND (all Yorkshire but one)
SLATER: Ovenden, Halifax, and Massachusetts
DOBSON, LONGBOTTOM: Thornton (Bradford)
DRURY: Darton, Halifax, and Massachusetts
NEVIL(LE): Wigan (Lancs.), Darton
MEGSON: Dewsbury, Ossett
GARSIDE: Woolley, West Bretton

SCOTLAND
ROBERT HENDRY: b. 1856, Who-knows-where-shire, Scotland; 1882 to US
DEMPSTER, HOUSTON: Lesmahagow, Glasgow, and Massachusetts
GALBRAITH, MEIKLE: Kirkmichael, Ayr.; Hamilton, Glasgow, and Massachusetts

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Re: Relative lost after 1841
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 07 November 10 21:47 GMT (UK) »
Hi John

I can't see her on a very quick look. Did she have a middle name? sometimes

middle names and first names were used interchangeably.

What was her mother's maiden name?

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Re: Relative lost after 1841
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 07 November 10 21:57 GMT (UK) »
Hi Joy: Thanks for your help. Christiana had no middle name that I've found so far. Her mother's maiden name was Wood.

Regards,
John  :o :o :o
ENGLAND (all Yorkshire but one)
SLATER: Ovenden, Halifax, and Massachusetts
DOBSON, LONGBOTTOM: Thornton (Bradford)
DRURY: Darton, Halifax, and Massachusetts
NEVIL(LE): Wigan (Lancs.), Darton
MEGSON: Dewsbury, Ossett
GARSIDE: Woolley, West Bretton

SCOTLAND
ROBERT HENDRY: b. 1856, Who-knows-where-shire, Scotland; 1882 to US
DEMPSTER, HOUSTON: Lesmahagow, Glasgow, and Massachusetts
GALBRAITH, MEIKLE: Kirkmichael, Ayr.; Hamilton, Glasgow, and Massachusetts

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Re: Relative lost after 1841
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 07 November 10 22:15 GMT (UK) »
Hi John

I can't see her in 1851 but this entry for 1861 confirms she married George Turner

Crigglestone
George Turner Head M 35 Colliery Labr Bretton West
Christiana do Wife 25 Bretton West
Albert Garside Son in law 4 Bretton West
Harrye Turner Son 3mo Crigglestone
RG9/3418/41 Pg10

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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge


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Re: Relative lost after 1841
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 07 November 10 22:18 GMT (UK) »





John, have a look at this one in 1851 :

Christiana Garside, born 1836. Hopefully if you just put Christiana in the search, it should work.

HO107/2316, Folio 420, Page 9

The enumerator has written her birthplace as Britton, but Bretton Park is near to Silkstone.

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Re: Relative lost after 1841
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 07 November 10 22:20 GMT (UK) »
Good find Pels

For completeness

1871
Crigglestone
Christiana Turner Head W 35 Laundress Bretton
Albert Turner Son 14 Bretton
Harry Turner Son 10 Scholar Crigglestone
Mary Turner Daur 5 Scholar Crigglestone
RG10/4615/48 Pg11

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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge

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Re: Relative lost after 1841
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 07 November 10 23:47 GMT (UK) »
Hi Jan and Pels: Thanks for the look ups. I'll have a look for Christiana in 1851 when I'm next at the library.

The fact that both parents seem to have died brought up as many questions as it answered.

Christiana's oldest son, Albert, is surnamed Garside, rather than Turner, as attested by FreeBMD, which shows his birth as December quarter 1856.

I found Albert Garside and Mary Turner in the 1881 census on FamilySearch.org. Albert was a coal miner, living as a lodger in Crigglestone, and Mary is listed as the adopted child of Thomas Wilson, 74, and his wife, Ann, 66. Don't recognize them. The kindness of strangers, I guess. No sign of Harry Turner.

Thanks again,
John  :o :o :o
ENGLAND (all Yorkshire but one)
SLATER: Ovenden, Halifax, and Massachusetts
DOBSON, LONGBOTTOM: Thornton (Bradford)
DRURY: Darton, Halifax, and Massachusetts
NEVIL(LE): Wigan (Lancs.), Darton
MEGSON: Dewsbury, Ossett
GARSIDE: Woolley, West Bretton

SCOTLAND
ROBERT HENDRY: b. 1856, Who-knows-where-shire, Scotland; 1882 to US
DEMPSTER, HOUSTON: Lesmahagow, Glasgow, and Massachusetts
GALBRAITH, MEIKLE: Kirkmichael, Ayr.; Hamilton, Glasgow, and Massachusetts

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Re: Relative lost after 1841
« Reply #7 on: Monday 08 November 10 00:05 GMT (UK) »





John, I'm sorry - I didn't realise you didn't have easy access to the 1851.

Hang on and I'll post it for you.

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Re: Relative lost after 1841
« Reply #8 on: Monday 08 November 10 00:14 GMT (UK) »



Here you are :

1851 census:
HO107/2316, Folio 420, Page 9

Yorkshire, Rothwell

George Roberts, h. mar, 54, Farmer 17 acres, 1 Outdoor Labourer, b. Lofthouse, Yks
Bathsheba, wife, 54, Farmers Wife, b. Holbeck, Yks
Christiana Garside, serv, unm, 15, House Servant, b. Britton, Yks

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