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Wear Gifford
« on: Tuesday 16 November 10 16:24 GMT (UK) »
Samuel and Mary HOOKWAY had children from 1812 in Wear Gifford
Their first child Henry's baptism appears in Family Search but the transcripts only go up to 1812
In 1841 they are on the census with:
Ann 1821-1826, Charles 1821-1826, William 1831,Jane 1834, Betsey Blight 1816 Jane Blight 1837. and Betsey Blight 1839
we know that Betsey Blight a wid father Samuel HOOKWAY married John Arnold in 1843

The question is did Samuel and Mary have any other children? and what was Mary's maiden name
Samuel was baptised 22 May 1787 son of William and Mary??
We have 6 children baptised to William and Mary 1787- 1805
There is a marriage on Family Search for a William HOOKWAY and Mary Brinsmead in St Giles in the wood could this be them? I have other Brinsmeads in Wear Gifford and St GILES in the wood

Hope you can help  I have not located an OPC for Wear Gifford
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Re: Wear Gifford
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 16 November 10 17:39 GMT (UK) »
Hi Trees

This is a frustrating one!

Are there any rellies living with any of them during the censuses?

deb  :)
Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: Wear Gifford
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 16 November 10 17:47 GMT (UK) »
Trees

IGI has a submitted entry

ROBERT HOOKWAY s/o William HOOKWAY and MARY BRINSMEAD
chr; 20 JUL 1783,   Saint Giles-In-The-Wood
buried; 24 MAR 1809,   Saint Giles-In-The-Wood

Do you think he would be another child ..making the total 7?

deb
Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: Wear Gifford
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 16 November 10 18:47 GMT (UK) »
I am wondering about William and Mary Brinsmead I have both names in St Gilesitw and Wear Gifford this William and Mary married St Giles itw in 1782
The  first known child of our Wm and Mary was Samuel 1787 Weare Gifford so it is possible that they did marry in St Giles and move to Weare Gifford shortly after I'll write to the St Giles itw OPC to see if they had any other children in that parish

1841 for the Hookway family is outlined above the 1851 has only Samuel, Mary and daughter Jane That has Samuel 1788 Weare Gifford and Mary Torrington so neither St Giles itw which is making me doubt that marriage as being the one
Samuel was a bargeman so I suppose he could have met Mary any where with a water course I don't think St Giles itw falls into this categories though and her home in Torrington does um maybe I need to enquire with the Torrington OPC in case
Thanks for your input Deb most welcome
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Re: Wear Gifford
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 16 November 10 21:01 GMT (UK) »
Hi Trees

I just found something interesting although I am not sure if they are yours;

Devon County Sessions
20 Oct 1846
Samuel Hookway
Henry Hookway
Thomas Hookway
Richard Hookway

all in for larceny ...  they were acquitted. 3 of the names belong to your William and Mary's children
Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: Wear Gifford
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 16 November 10 22:35 GMT (UK) »
wow that is interesting glad to see they were acquitted now was Richard one of the brothers It could well be so I really do need some one to check the registers for Weare Gifford ans St Giles in the Wood
The second 9 mystery us that John Arnold barge man married Mary Blight nee Hookway f Samuel HOOKWAY a bargeman giving his father  as John Arnold a bargeman  John Arnold formally John Jury
We have found John Jury baptised in Ashreigney in 1801 to Hannah Jury single woman.
Did Hannah marry an Arnold or was his biological father John Arnold was he brought up by a John Arnold or what? More to the point how do I find evidence of any of the above
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Re: Wear Gifford
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 16 November 10 23:01 GMT (UK) »
Hi Trees

It seems the the St Giles in the Wood Hookways stayed there ...there are also a couple more Brinsmead/Brunsmead birth and deaths as well as a couple of Probates for them.

The only person from the quarter sessions that does not fit is the Henry ... but then again would he have been at home in the 1841 ...??

Trees ...another thing ...try as I might I could not find the marriage of Betsy Blight to John Arnold ...am I going mad!? (I do see them as a family in 1851 though!)

How does a man have a 'formerly' name ... it seems that he may have been baptised Jury but was the true son of John Arnold .... eeeekkkk complicated LOL

Did john Arnold marry Betsy as a Jury or an Arnold?

deb :)
Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: Wear Gifford
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 16 November 10 23:05 GMT (UK) »
Ashreigney sounds great to me as that is his POB in 1851,,,,

have you found him in 1841?

"We have found John Jury baptised in Ashreigney in 1801 to Hannah Jury single woman."
Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: Wear Gifford
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 16 November 10 23:21 GMT (UK) »
Just for reference these are the children of William and Mary:
THOMAS HOOKWAY 31 MAR 1805   Weare Giffard

EDWARD HOOKWAY 14 MAR 1802 Weare Giffard

MARY HOOKWAY 21 FEB 1796 Weare Giffard

RICHARD HOOKWAY, 24 FEB 1793 Weare Giffard

WILLIAM HOOKWAY 13 DEC 1789 Weare Giffard

 SAMUEL HOOKWAY 22 MAY 1787 Weare Giffard

that's why the other christening seems so out of place:

ie:
IGI has a submitted entry

ROBERT HOOKWAY s/o William HOOKWAY and MARY BRINSMEAD
chr; 20 JUL 1783, Saint Giles-In-The-Wood
buried; 24 MAR 1809, Saint Giles-In-The-Wood

Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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