?bigamist

[louisa maud]

Julia Simmons widow was living at 374 York Road at the time of her death 1921, will adm to Ernest Edward Simmons,  contractor,  amounting to £154:15s;10d. Ernest as born 1888

LM

[cathyturner17]

Hmmm, sounds like Albert was disowned.  Maybe because of bigamy?

Either that, or as I jokingly say to family, Sarah tossed him in the Thames and ran off to New Zealand.

is there any trace of Walter Jnr or Ernest later on?  If I can trace them, maybe they have descendants.

Kate died aged 2 years?

Pity that bigamy is not recorded anywhere.

Wish I could be 100% certain this is my guy, (I am currently sitting on about 50%)

Cathy

[avm228]

Have you thought about tracing what happened to the children of the marriage to Ethel BRANNAM? I really wouldn't rule out that marriage. The age on the later marriage to Sarah may well be unreliable - either because he lied (as bigamists are prone to) or because the age has been mistranscribed from 33 to 23 at some stage in the record keeping. (Unless it is the original marriage cert that you have?).  All the other evidence points strongly to his being the chap born in 1879.

[louisa maud]

woth considering

1901 RG13/389 FOLIO 87 PAGE 2
64 Bermondsey New Road in house of Thomas Hirst, lic victualler

SIDNEY SIMMONS
aged 22
servant
born Wandsworth
Seems he used whatever name he fancied

LM

[louisa maud]

I can't find Ethel BRANNAM birth BUT 1901 shows the following

RG13/483 FOLIO 113 PAGE 35, corrected from Bramam to Brannam

567 York Road

Abraham BRANNAM aged 52 Greengrocer born Devon
Sarah A 44 Farnham
ETHEL aged 16 Wandsworth
George 12 Wandsworth

York Road ??

I am 100% convinced he married Ethel Brannam


Louisa Maud

[louisa maud]

Consider  these 2 births

Sydney Walter G born Dec qtr 1906 Wandsworth  ref 1d 729
Doris Ethel born Mar qtr 1905 1d 799

possible marriage
Sidney W G Simmons marriage to Ethel D Wicken
June qtr 1936
Pancras
ref 1b 53

 
LM

[avm228]

I can't find Ethel BRANNAM birth

I posted it at reply #7.  Full details from FreeBMD:

Birth, Sep qtr 1884

Ethel BRANNAM

Wandsworth 1d 734

[cathyturner17]

methinks you might be right.

Marriage cert is a cert. copy of the original, definitely says aged 23 years.

Liars usually stick as close to the truth as possible, saves getting caught out.  

I found another marriage to Ellen Grace Pateman, 1903 2q Wandsworth ID 1349,  Albert Sidney Simmons.

If its my guy, he was certainly busy!

There is also a "wifes petition for divorce - Ethel Simmons 1929, (National Archives Kew Divorce Court file 7043
Hem ref J77/2470/7043), not sure how to look into this further.  Kew is a long way from Auckland!

I am sure I noted a son born to his marriage to Ethel, and wrote it down, can't find it so will check it out and see if it comes to anything.

Cathy

[avm228]

I found another marriage to Ellen Grace Pateman, 1903 2q Wandsworth ID 1349,  Albert Sidney Simmons.

Are you sure? I can see this much later one:

Marriage, Sep qtr 1931

Ellen G PATEMAN
Albert SIMMONS

Pancras 1b 262