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Newcastle 1916 : Electoral Roll & Evening Chronicle
« on: Saturday 04 December 10 18:40 GMT (UK) »
Hello,  1st time on so I hope I do this correctly !

Samuel John THOMAS + Annie Amelia Mary STAFFORD (nee HUGHES) move to Newcastle approx 1914 living together probably at 96 Doncaster Road, Newcastle.
13/01/1916: Birth of John Norman (no father stated), Birth not registered until 08/08/1916
01/02/1916: Death of Samuel John (due to Electrocution-Accidental) whilst working for Armstrong Whitworth & Co (No. 64 Shop) Scotswood.   Coroner's Inquest 03/02/1916.

Seeking confirmation of
(a) Date on Electoral Roll and Who
(b) Date off Electoral Roll
(c) any info possibly available,  that was reported in the Press for Feb 1st 1916 (Date of Death) thru' Coroner's Inquest report

and any ideas people may have in tracking down further information.

Many thanks,

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Re: Newcastle 1916 : Electoral Roll & Evening Chronicle
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 04 December 10 19:04 GMT (UK) »
Hi Welcome to RootsChat,
No electoral registers were published in the years 1916 and 1917. What do you mean by
(a) Date on Electoral Roll and Who
(b) Date off Electoral Roll

Stan
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Re: Newcastle 1916 : Electoral Roll & Evening Chronicle
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 05 December 10 14:35 GMT (UK) »
Hi Stan,
Thanks for the info.   
No Electoral Roll is a bit of a blow.  Ah well....

Date on (& Off) was the assumption that over a period,  people would appear and then eventually be replaced by the new occupiers.  That way I'd have a general time span as to when she left the house/area for example.

Just to put you in the picture,  Annie appears to be popping up all around the country producing children and also several marriages (or "associations") and I'm trying to figure out the timeline.


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Re: Newcastle 1916 : Electoral Roll & Evening Chronicle
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 05 December 10 16:48 GMT (UK) »
Women 30+ would only appear in the registers after 1918,, and 21+ after 1928.
Woman over thirty who were occupiers in their own right or married to men entitled to a local government vote, were given the right to vote by  the 1918  Qualification of Women Act. The Equal Franchise Act 1928 gave women equal voting rights to men.
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Re: Newcastle 1916 : Electoral Roll & Evening Chronicle
« Reply #4 on: Monday 06 December 10 09:01 GMT (UK) »
Understood.  Many thanks for the detailed info.

I'll have to hope that maybe the case was reported in the press and that they have some further bit of info contained within.
Cheers,

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Re: Newcastle 1916 : Electoral Roll & Evening Chronicle
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 14 December 10 00:15 GMT (UK) »
GP999,

Evening Chronicle, Newcastle Thurs 3 Feb 1916.
Death column

THOMAS.

 96 Doncaster Road, February 1, accidentally killed at Armstrong's, aged 29 yrs.
John, dearly beloved husband of Millie Thomas. Interrment Jesmond Cemetery, Saturday 3 o'clock. All friends kindly invited
~~~~~~~~-----------------

Notice repeated in edition of Friday 4th Feb.


No sign of an inquest in Chronicle editions up to Feb 12th.


Newcastle Roll of Citizens 1913/14
Heaton Ward 96 Doncaster Road
Robert Davison (qualification= Dwelling house-successive 6 Franklin St, 96 Doncaster Rd)

Newcastle Parliamentary Roll 1914.

Same as 1913/14


Wards Directory 1916
Doncaster Rd.
98 J Scott, plumber
94 T Burton, horsekeeper
No entry for 96.

Wards 1917
ditto as 1916.

N/C Parliamentary Roll 1918/19
Heaton Ward. Doncaster Rd
98 Scott, 94 Burton
 96 Thomas MILLIE (qual by occupation)

( I wonder if the above Thomas Millie is Millie Thomas.? Is Millie nickname for Amelia ?)

Michael
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Re: Newcastle 1916 : Electoral Roll & Evening Chronicle
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 18 December 10 14:07 GMT (UK) »
Michael,
Many, many thanks for your research into this.  Apologies for delay in sending my thanks (I'm a weekend researcher).

We know that in 1911 (Census) they were both in Luton (he was a boarder with her and her actual husband).
She gives birth to the 1st Child (father un-named) November 1914 in Llanelly, Wales.
I'll assume that from your info they got to Doncaster Road say 1915 whereupon she gives Birth Jan 1916 and he gets electrocuted 19 days later.

Millie has to be the forename that she was using based on the Death Notice so we can assume fairly certainly that the Millie Thomas who shows at #96 on the N/C Parliamentary Roll 1918/19 is her.  The fact that she "qualified" suggests that she was still "a woman on her own who was resident"
Women 30+ would only appear in the registers after 1918,, and 21+ after 1928.
Woman over thirty who were occupiers in their own right or married to men entitled to a local government vote, were given the right to vote by the 1918 Qualification of Women Act. The Equal Franchise Act 1928 gave women equal voting rights to men.
Stan


The next time I pick her up is a further marriage in 1922 down in London when she still has the married name of Stafford although it does state under Condition "...from whom she obtained a Divorce."
Interestingly one of the Witnesses is her (spinster ?) "Step-Daughter" from the Stafford Marriage namely Ethel Grace CORNISH (born circa 1900).
Family Names differ since she was born illegitimate to Annie (no relation) Cornish and certainly appears on that Luton 1911 Census with all the others.

So,  my favour to ask is,  can you further search forwards from that 1918/19 Parliamentary Roll to see when Millie Thomas (Thomas or Stafford or Cornish) might have disappeared from the property ?

Many, many thanks,
GP999

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Re: Newcastle 1916 : Electoral Roll & Evening Chronicle
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 18 December 10 22:25 GMT (UK) »
GP999,

 I did the ERs first, so did not realise the significance of the name Millie until I saw the death notice.

 On the ERs I did go past 1918 but don't think there were any Thomass. But will make certain at earliest opp.

Michael
Names.

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Areas. Co Sligo, Co Leitrim, Co Mayo. IRELAND.
Ontario, CANADA
Lowell, Ma, USA
Counties of Northumberland & Durham, ENGLAND
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MALEY/MELIA/MALLEY  - with or without " O "
Westport Co Mayo. Northumberland
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DIXON
Cumberland.. Brampton, Carlisle, ENGLAND

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