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Re: Donald C. Christie, Killin area, b. 1830
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 29 September 24 23:32 BST (UK) »
This is a very old thread which I found on Google but I've been working on the Christie family in Reach in Canada and currently on Donald Campbell Christie. My connection to them is that his wife Jane Christie was the daughter of Jane Christie the sister of my g-g-g grandfather Hugh Christie who stayed in Scotland

I've been trying to work out if Donald Campbell Christie is in fact the son of Donald Christie who emigrated to Canada in the 1830's or is from another branch of the family with the issues about his parentage and emigration date to Canada as you've listed above.

If you've any information on that I'd like to hear it or happy pass on any from my research mainly in Scotland.

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Re: Donald C. Christie, Killin area, b. 1830
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 08 October 24 01:14 BST (UK) »
Hello!

Welcome to RootsChat.   I am glad you found my old thread :) 

I have your Hugh Christie on my tree.   As far as I can tell, all of his siblings crossed the ocean.  Most ended up in Canada, but a couple ended up in Pennsylvania. 

The Reach Christies are not easy to sort out!   I am happy to help. 

Donald C Christie (1830-1904) and Jane Christie (1828-1893) are my GGgrandparents.   Donald C Christie's parents were Donald Christie (1796-1844) and his first wife Christian Campbell.   I have very little information about Christian.   The elder Donald married again - to Mary Munro.   They had a daughter Helen (1836-1869) who married Rev John Mitchell.   

The elder Donald is one of the Christies who came to Reach, Ontario, Canada in 1831.  So was his brother Peter Christie. 

RK

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Re: Donald C. Christie, Killin area, b. 1830
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 09 October 24 20:26 BST (UK) »
Hi RK,
         Nice to hear from you! I did a lot of research on Hugh Christie my g-g-g grandfather and on his siblings in Scotland so I was interested in finding out about the descendants of his sister Jane who married Peter Christie and went to Canada and his brother John who also went to Canada.

I've been doing a lot more research on the Christie family trying to sort out the various Christie's in Reach since I last posted and I've come to the conclusion that Donald C. Christie who married Jane, the daughter of Peter and Jane, wasn't related to the three "Reach" brothers Donald, Peter and John but was in fact another Christie branch.

If you've got an Ancestry account it's probably easier to look at it in my tree. This is the link to Jane Christie  (1805-1857) in my Ancestry tree. https://www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/person/tree/77402340/person/242319422399/facts

CR.





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Re: Donald C. Christie, Killin area, b. 1830
« Reply #12 on: Friday 11 October 24 06:19 BST (UK) »
Hi CR,

I don't have a current Ancestry subscription, so I am not able to see your tree.  I kept my subscription going for many years, but now I only activate it from time to time. 

The Reach Christies are a confusing bunch...sorry about that.   I will try to sort us out for you!! 

John Christie (1798-1881) - the elder brother of your Hugh - settled in Canada.     

From your Hugh Christie's Will...
•   To the children of my deceased sister Mrs Jane Christie sometime wife of Peter Christie residing in Canada West, North America, the sum of one hundred pounds Sterling to be divided equally among them;
•   to my brother John Christie residing in Canada West aforesaid, and his heirs, the sum of one hundred and fifty pounds Sterling; 

That John Christie married Janet McAlpine in Scotland.   Their youngest son John was born in Scotland in 1835.   Somewhere between 1835 and 1845, when he married Liza McDonald in Pickering Ontario, Janet died and he came to Canada.   I found a note from Stephen Wood - a descendent of this branch of the family - saying that he thinks John arrived around 1841. 

John Christie and Janet/Jean McAlpine had 5 children...   He had no children with Liza.   

Duncan 1824-1883  m Christiana Claughton
Donald 1829-1915
Hugh 1831-1906 m Ann "Nancy" Beaton
Jane 1832-1908
John 1835-1905 m Sarah Claughton

The 2 Claughtons were sisters.    My grandmother referred to this branch of the Christies as the "Utica Christies" or the "Claughton Christies".

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The other Christies from Reach descend from Peter and Donald Christie, who were brothers.  Peter (1799-1882) and Donald (1796-1844) came to Reach Ontario in 1831.    Peter was married to your  Jane (1805-1857) and lived on Concession 5, Lot 11.  Donald married Christian Campbell, and later Mary Munro.   Donald was on Concession 5, Lot 12.   

Peter/Jane's daughter Jane (1828-1893) married Donald/Christian's son Donald Campbell Christie (1830-1904).   They were first cousins - and my gggrandparents.

Peter and Donald have a brother John (1786-1857) - he came to Canada in 1845.   So we have 2 Johns arriving at a similar time, though they were born several years apart.       

Local history books (ie. see Farewell, "Ontario County") say that the Peter and Donald Christie who settled in Reach Township in 1831 were the Uncles of Peter Christie, MP.    Their brother John (1786-1857) married Jean McLaren and is the father of Peter Christie MP.   My grandmother remembered Peter Christie MP well, and certainly remembered his elder sister Lizzie (1843-1944).   Lizzie used to tell the "Christie story" at their very large family reunions!    Lizzie kept a diary - it is at the Uxbridge library. 

Peter Christie MP's son Alexander Graham Christie made an extensive family tree of our branch of the Christie family - he interviewed Lizzie and all the elder Christies.   He was a professor at Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore Maryland, but he and his wife and children came to Canada in the summers to visit.     
 
It would be very hard to sort out the Reach Christies without Alexander Graham Christie's tree as the as a starting point.    There are so many people with similar names, all living in the same area!!  I am also very lucky that my mother has a very good friend who turns out to be a Christie cousin from the "Utica" Christie branch.   She gave us a comprehensive tree of her Christies.   

I know this is confusing, but I hope I was able to make some sense out of it for you.   

RK


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Re: Donald C. Christie, Killin area, b. 1830
« Reply #13 on: Friday 11 October 24 06:26 BST (UK) »
So - long story short....Donald C Christie is definitely related to the "Reach brothers".   So is his wife Jane. 

RK

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Re: Donald C. Christie, Killin area, b. 1830
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 12 October 24 14:46 BST (UK) »
Hi RK,
         Thanks for all that info on the Canadian Christies. I was in touch with Stephen Wood several years ago in 2021 looking at the Scottish side of the Christies and I've now tracked down Lizzie Christie's diary in the Uxbridge Library that you mentioned although unfortunately there's no online copy to look at.

Is there a digital copy of the family tree created by Alexander Graham Christie anywhere?

The main sticking point I've got about Donald C. Christie is that I found him in the 1901 Canadian census which gives his immigration date as 1855, nearly 25 years after Peter and Donald arrived in Canada.

CR.

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Re: Donald C. Christie, Killin area, b. 1830
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 17 October 24 03:07 BST (UK) »
Hi,

As far as I know, nobody has posted their A Graham Christie sheets online.   

I know that Donald C's census entry from 1901 says he came to Canada in 1855.   A few things about that - very often those dates are wrong.   It depends on who answered the census takers questions and what they knew.   There can - and often are - transcription errors.   

I have never heard any stories about my great grandfather's father (Donald C Christie) coming to Canada later than 1831.    However, it is possible that he could have come later.   His mother Christina/Christian died, and perhaps Donald Sr didn't want to bring a baby with him on the trip.   Donald Campbell Christie might have stayed behind in Scotland with relatives.   But - I haven't seen him on any Scottish censuses.   Also - Donald's brother Peter came over with his wife and some very small children.  Donald and Peter's sister Jean/Jane also came with her husband Archibald McDiarmid.   They had small children.   I don't see why Donald Campbell Christie would be left behind.  I am of the opinion that the 1901 census entry is wrong and Donald Campbell Christie did come with his father, his Uncle and Aunt and their families in 1831.   

Donald Campbell Christie is my great great grandfather.   My Christie family is definitely related to the other Christies who came from Perthshire...they used to visit each other frequently.   My grandmother knew her Christie cousins well.   

RK

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Re: Donald C. Christie, Killin area, b. 1830
« Reply #16 on: Monday 13 January 25 03:08 GMT (UK) »
I have indexed the entirety of the Christies of Killin.  I have assembled a number of the trees, but will have to analyze this thread to see what I am missing.

A good chunk of the records have been added here, but there are a number still in spreadsheets I am still researching and will add as I progress:
https://www.mckercher.org/TheIndex

This the John Christie (McGilchrist) tree (what I have currently):

Researching McKercher, McKerchar, McKerracher, McKericher and the families of Fortingall, Weem, Kenmore, Killin and Dull parishes.

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Re: Donald C. Christie, Killin area, b. 1830
« Reply #17 on: Monday 13 January 25 03:20 GMT (UK) »
The second Reach tree - unconnected at this point in research, but obviously related:

Researching McKercher, McKerchar, McKerracher, McKericher and the families of Fortingall, Weem, Kenmore, Killin and Dull parishes.

www.mckercher.org