Thomas Outram Carlisle - Census Lookup

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Hello,

I am trying to find a Thomas Outram Carlisle (b 1879 W. Derby) in the Census. I know that he married Minnie F Rose in 1926 Bridge District, Kent. Minnie Carlisle died in 1930.

In 1931 he married Margaret Elizabeth Carter (b 1912 Kent).

Any details would be much appreciated. Have been frustrated looking, maybe the wrong places? Thankyou. 

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[crisane]

1891 RG12/3452/28/27

24 Templeton Terrace
Isabel Carlisle 44 Lodging House keeper Stoke on trent Staffs
John Samuel 17 Southport
Constance Isabe 16 Walsall
Charles Robert 13 Birmingham
Thomas O C 12 Liverpool
Sarah Outram Crewe 42  Stoke on Trent sister

1881 RG11/4254/86/20
Isabella is with her parents, still no sign of a husband but the marriage is
Sept 1/4 1872 Walsall vol 6b page 911 on same page John Hobday Carlisle

1901 RG13/3970/74/45
Isabel. Constance and sister Sarah O Crewe in Blackpool with many boarders but having trouble finding Thomas.
If you can't access the census I can give you the details.

[suzard]

Fuller details of 1891
address 24 Templeton terrace Blackpool Lancs
Isabel was Head of household - and married
John Samuel occ Goods Clerk b Southport Lancs
Daughter Constance is Constance mabel (not Isabe) occ Telegraph assistant postal b. Walsall Staffs
Charles Robert scholar b. Birmingham Warwicks
Thomas O.C. scholar b. Liverpool Lancs
Sarah Outram Crewe sister unmarried -nervous affliction from Childhhod

Suz

[suzard]

Birth reg FreeBMD
John Hobday Carlisle
Mar qtr 1849
Rotherham district
22 517

1851
Beighton Derbys
Robert T Carlisle Head M 38 Contractor 60 workmen Cumberland
Grace Elizabeth wife 27 Kent
Joseph son 4 Yorks
John Hobday son 2 Derbys
Tom Jackson 4 mths Derbys
Julia Stacey son?(think should be servant?) U 16 Houseservant Yorks
HO107 2343 8 9

Suz

[suzard]

I think this is John Hobday Carlisle- visiting his brother  =but can't find him on later census

1871
12 Goldington Cr St Pancras
in household of John Parr and family
Joseph Carlisle Boarder U 23 Vetinary student Yorks
John H Carlisle visitor U 22 Contractor Derbys
RG10 229 19 32

Suz

[trish1120]

Marriage from FreeBMD;
Robert CARLISLE, Dec 1845, W Ashford, 5 31
On the same page is Grace HOBDAY

1841 Census
Gullots Hill,
Aluph Boughton, Kent
HO107/471/10/Aluph Boughton
John HOBDAY, 55, Poulterer
Grace, 55
William, 20
GRACE, 17
Valentine, 14
All born in County

Marriage from IGI Extracted;
John HOBDAY
Grace MOSS
19 November 1804, Chilham, Kent, England

Trish

[trish1120]

I couldnt help myself and had to find how the Outram fitted in

1871 Census
12 Hygiene, Terrace,
Leyton with Warbeck,
Blackpool, Lancashire
RG10/4222/123/3
Robert CARLISLE, 55, Head, Mar, Contractor, born Hesketh With Market, Cumberland
Elizabeth, 45, Wife, Mar, born Boughton Aluph, Kent
+ 1 Servant

Now interestingly living nearby are;
Royal Hotel;
Samuel CREWE, 55, Head, Mar, Licenced Victualler, born Nantwich, Cheshire
Sarah, 55, Wife, Mar
ISABELLA, 24, Daug, Unm,  Assistant In the Hotel, born Staffordshire, Stoke
Sarah, 22, Daug, Unm
Rosa E, 20, Daug, Unm
Mary, 17, Daug, Unm
Thomas, 13, Son, Scholar
Charles, 12, Son,  Scholar
All born Stoke, Staffordshire except Samuel
+ several Visitors and Servants etc

Marriage from FreeBMD;
Samuel CREW, June 1839, Stoke upon Trent, 17 174
On the same page is Sarah OUTRIM

I cant find them in 1841!

[trish1120]

Samuel CREWE, Christened/Baptised 30 April, 1815, Nantwich, Cheshire
Parents WILLIAM/ELIZABETH

Possible Marriage;
William CREWE
Elizabeth TAYLOR, 01 December 1794, Nantwich, Cheshire

Source Familysearch Pilot

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Hello crisane, suzard & trish1120,

Thankyou so much, I am overwhelmed. I too was going to check the Outram connection but you got there first. Certainly a lot of info to sort through and now have a good idea of his origins. I still haven't been able to find him after 1891 census. I was unable to find entry in 1881 as shown as Thomas A. Carlisle. But having his mother's name changed that. If you have 1901 details that would be wonderful. Regards.

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